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tuxedo meow
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 3:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

last few weeks for me has been implanted suicidal thoughts and the like and even worse...a beloved shared pet snatched the only way it could have disappeared...odd folks 'pulled' into my personal space or pushed into it maybe-strangely made up and dressed and with odd actions-odd almost mechanical neck moves...I am laughing and laughing and telling the odd ones they are protecting me -some interesting stories...a 1 yr old baby letting fly with a string of cuss words in what sounded like an adult voice...! a bizarre bazaar! Seeing the odd neck moves is the worst but laughter negates it all so far! what are these things???
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 4:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked

Possession. I used to think that was crazy. Now, not so much.
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PostPosted: Thu May 30, 2013 6:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This morning this post reminded me of a specific kind of possession. What you are describing reminded me of "Men In Black." Entities that animate a former human.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 01, 2013 5:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

moved this over to gifting the 78418-78480 so
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 13, 2013 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So ... Today I had my left ear ringing, didn't gave it much importance at that time, after 3 hours i read these. I felt the pain in my chest but Reiki cured it mostly, and then I asked ArchAngel Mihail for protection, I've made a habit of doing this, because I'm somehow sensitive. But I don't think I had the ear ringing before, at least not that I took actual noticed of it.
Things are starting to get interesting for me, next time I will be more careful what I wish for Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lightchild, check your PMs Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 18, 2013 1:59 am    Post subject: Awesome thread Reply with quote

Great thread. Thanks to all who contributed. Took a Rosicrucian class last spring that had some great insights about "The Hero's Journey" and how it is a path of initiation. It gets awfully lonely sometimes and this thread reminds me that others are valiantly fighting the good fight.

I agree with Emlong-
and there are methods to determine what plane the energies are generated on. Lots of astral garbage out there, and my experience indicates most folks don't have very good defenses there. I measured all kinds of pendants, bracelets, statues and other protective devices made by various organizations or various healers/teachers. I admit I was surprised that only 1 had any effect on the astral level. (They were devices by Slim Spurling. I don't know much about him.)

Thanks for the advice Sensei-
wish I had read that a few years ago!

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2013 5:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slim Spurling was and still may be on levels we don't understand yet, one of the all time great stewards of the planet. I have one of his environmental harmonizers--I keep it on my orgone field generator so they can work together Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

although i currently think there are likely major differences between what most people think of as an attack and a shamanic initiation attack, there are certainly similarities as well. this is a great listen in my opinion, especially for anyone thats been seriously attacked,. i actually had a very long and intense "break from reality" potential initiation experience, and due to the nature of it, did come away with more of an messianic interpretation then a shamanic one. and apparently that is the norm here in the states, no surprise of course.

in short attacks can be used to initiate us when we reach out to the spirit world for help during rather then an egoic response.

Shamanism and a MessianicCcomplex

"Shamanic initiatory experiences often involve a break with reality and a time of madness, which is perceived of as a kind of test or challenge initiated by a helping spirit. The novice that allows a death of his/her sense of self moves through their own madness to the other side of that challenge transformed. The novice returns to a more ordinary state of consciousness and is acknowledged as a shaman. In contrast, in America similar breaks with reality lead into a dead end commonly referred to as a “messianic complex” in which the person perceives of them selves as a Savior or The One. This interpretation becomes a mental cul-de-sac for the individual with martyrdom the only way out. Join host and shaman, Christina Pratt, as she explores the fact that how we interpret our own “madness” is culturally determined, thus those challenged by a diagnosis of mental illness may help themselves by ditching contemporary culture and interpreting their own experience through a shamanic cosmology in which no one needs to be saved."

whyshamanismnow.com/2013/12/a-messianic-complex-and-shamanism/

starts about 10:00 in.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 7:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

let my guard down a few months ago and was incessantly attacked to the point people could see i was "dying"...

Don't let your guard down

I was attacked yet again in a dream two nights ago...a dreadful dream where I rescued this person from a bad place...In the dream when i was going to kick the door down I saw it already was AND the lock was already broken...i took the broken lock as a weapon with me and received no argument from any of the ugly thugs when i demanded the rescuee come out...when I awoke I
extremely overwhelmed by what I had seen-extremely-and then realized the scene had been an orchestration to further try to weaken me...so took care of that

pissed off because I fought these suckers before and they found another but the same route...I was trying to live like "normal" folks

The attack had Started out with comments and words...probing for a reaction...almost constantly whenever i was around one particular person...Most comments were about things I did not react to because they mean so little to me:

"You have a fat ass"..."your so jealous of me because I get laid and you don't"...."dumb"

"you'll die old and alone" the phrases and wordings became more and more frenzied as they were getting no reaction. Phrases got worse and peace of mind and ability to do normal tasks like pay my bills or rest and relax suffered. blah blah of course there was more

Protecting myself took a legal and spiritual effort but neither were timely and doing them also seemed to weaken me. Except, of course, it strengthened me.

each time i made a positive step to strengthen and protect myself, an older native american shaman would pop-up in my vicinity, on foot, in a car, at the library...positive reinforcement with a big grin and a sassy comment!

after the person who was harboring what was attacking me left town and I was renewing my joy like at pow wow they would call me on the phone...leaving a voice mail that seemed to be a sweet voice...of course I did not respond which of course was another way to push shame blame on me..like a double edged sword the oppressor was thinking...aiming to weaken me...

It took work for me to escape it or hold it off because its not done trying

My good luck was I have a number of "that which does not kill you makes you stronger" and "what you have experienced, no power on Earth can take from you" times under my belt...bad times, sad times etc made me stronger...

what WAS getting a reaction was I started to get weary of the non stop shit...a sign of 'demonic' attack...and because of WHO it was coming from I was letting a lot slide

It stopped. I stopped.

Realize of course to stay on my esp spiritual toes always.

Stay on yours, too

Read your stickies and when you relax do so as a warrior....

love, tux
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, Tux -- intense! Glad you came through it OK.

Personally, I broke through another 'barrier' or 'dark afternoon of the soul'. It was minor in relation to what other people may have experienced, but when I went back outside to meditate the next day, there was so much more awareness of 'life around me' (and the matrix we live in) that I realized the truth I had recognized ( I know the wording is weird, but it means what I mean). This is a theme for me throughout my life -- certain moments of clarity / epiphany. This one was ugly and my behavior was not good at all, but in the end, I persevered through it. And bless my husband for putting up with me on the days I have like this once in awhile.

I havent had any real attacks in lately -- well, one perhaps, but I slept with black tourmaline and orgonite in my bed those two nights, and that helps a lot.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 5:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

We are warriors and magicians and a lot more....Through this last post stuff orgonite was everywhere and the person had some and was even sleeping with some under pillow...

Chaos and fractals and clearings and cleansings and who do you love and how can you love when ONLY love and non negative reactions win the day


" there are likely major differences between what most people think of as an attack and a shamanic initiation attack, there are certainly similarities as well. this is a great listen in my opinion, especially for anyone that's been seriously attacked,."

This rang at least one of my bells! "Shamanic initiation attack"

Yeah more school of controlling the only thing we CAN control IMO: our own reactions

very interesting link
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 01, 2014 10:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

tuxedo meow wrote:


Yeah more school of controlling the only thing we CAN control IMO: our own reactions

very interesting link


This was the crux of my 'dark afternoon of the soul' as well. Admitting to myself that I am capable of exactly the same ugliness as everyone else -- EVERYONE -- including those unenlightened, ugly inside individuals.... In this way, I am no better than them -- in fact I am exactly the same -- I am 'made' the same.... and then at the same time realizing that what sets me apart from these people (the ugly inside ones) are the CHOICES I make, and that is what makes me unique.

So my lesson was:

I am exactly the same as everyone else.
I am unique and different (from everyone else) because of the choices I make.

It was a satisfying lesson and also ... good to 'break through'.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 02, 2014 3:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ughh you guys talk of controlling our reactions and attcks vs shamanic initiation makes me think of the mess I went through during the past 2 major mercury retrogrades his year.
One I acted extremely out of character and the past one rehashed old arguments and left me frustated with why i still can't comprehend my behavior and the current emotions (reactions) to the situations at hand.

If I were to think of it as a shamanic initiation, it does present a very humbling look at one self.

I question if it is to make you question if you way really want the path you seek in enlightenment. Should you wish to be a tool of the most benevolent will, you may find yourself working and acting in ways you just can't explain. Your ego tries to fight because now you are fighting yourself. We are all told that certain things are worth the stress and many of the best things are worth fighting for. Our society is more favorable to those that accomplish things through sheer will and determination rather than going with the flow, which is exactly what the faith in the higher good calls for on he path of enlightenment.
We are playing with shades of grey as we strive to be pure white.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 03, 2014 6:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Sensei and Lena for your posts! Very enlightening!
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