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Inoran
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 4:34 am    Post subject: My orgonite doesn't work Reply with quote

I have made 3 pyramid orgonites.

One has Magnetite and Beach Sand With Copper in the Peak (no quartz crystal because I figured there'd be plenty mixed with the magnetite and beach sand.

Another with Magnetite, Beach Sand with copper in the top peak, but also with a small quartz crystal inside the bottom half.

And a third one with Copper in the bottom half and bronze in the peak with a 4-5 quartz crystals inside.

I did eight tests of putting a bowl of water in the freezer with each pyramid underneath and also twice with no pyramid inside to compare the ice formation with.

All results of the ice were completely the same and had no sign of being effected by a scalar wave or any type of energy.

So my question is what am I doing wrong that does not allow me to get the results that other people get with strange patterns in the ice?

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you tried the ice test with a plastic glass 7/8th's full of water with the middle of the device (in this case a pyramid) over the open area of the glass? If not give it a try.

The ice test works.

Another great test is to place one of the pyramid's next to you when you are sleeping. How deeply do you sleep? Do you notice a better or different sleep pattern?

Also place one of your pyramids next to a plant or animal and see how they react. I have noticed that lizards in particular are attracted to these devices.

Of course if you doubt the efficacy of your device ask someone else to perform these tests for you.

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Inoran
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No I do not feel any energy coming from them aside what could be considered a placebo effect. I am a film maker and I would like to make a documentary on orgonite. However, I need to first see valid evidence that these are producing scalar waves or at least doing something before I continue. The ice phenomena might be some conclusive evidence if I can show a comparison to regular ice crystals, but this is not happening.

I see so many people posting pictures of ice formations that are supposedly the result of orgonite yet I haven't seen anybody test this experiment with any comparison or control group.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 5:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are in the US I will gladly send you a couple of TB's that you can use for frame of reference, send me a PM...

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't know if your orgonite works?

THROW THEM AWAY!

How did you react to that statement?

"NO! I won't throw it away!" = It's working

"O.K., no problem, I'll toss it in the trash"= probably not working

How did you feel when you popped them out of the mold? Love? Joy? Good orgonite.

Know anything about electricity? Put one piece on your electric meter, then take your multimeter and read the outlet closest to the meter, then the one farthest away from it. Do they read the same? The orgonite is active.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inoran wrote:
No I do not feel any energy coming from them aside what could be considered a placebo effect. I am a film maker and I would like to make a documentary on orgonite. However, I need to first see valid evidence that these are producing scalar waves or at least doing something before I continue. So far I just see a bunch of pretty sparkles incased in resin and pseudo science. The ice phenomena might be some conclusive evidence if I can show a comparison to regular ice crystals, but this is not happening.

I see so many people posting pictures of ice formations that are supposedly the result of orgonite yet I haven't seen anybody test this experiment with any comparison or control group.


You could try a plant growth test? Or a seed germination test: http://orgoniseyourself.com/orgonite-seed-test-germination/

That test seems a lot more measurable than the ice test.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:41 pm    Post subject: Effects are subtle Reply with quote

Not everyone ( I can not fell the energy except in a powerwand hooked to a zapper) can feel the energy. The effects are subtle. I have seen evil attacks neutralized over time and changes in luck take place over time. Also we are swimming in orgone energy all the time.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 6:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inoran, you can't get a good control once your environment has been gifted. Don't think any of us wants to remove all the orgonite from our homes and wait for the fields to fade just to prove what we know already.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 11, 2014 7:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to see some real evidence of the scalar waves you can build a CB and watch the chemtrail activity above the device. I love watching chemtrails break up above mine. Your control could be to watch the activity before constructing a CB.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't want to throw them away because I spent a pretty penny on all the supplies, not because they are 'working'.

I would be curious to know if anybody has a piece of orgonite that they can set in the freezer and repeatedly get strange ice patterns compared to without the orgonite. At which point I would want to know what is different about materials.

I did not 'program' the quartz crystal. Perhaps I will give that a try. Also will be created a powered orgone device this weekend to hook up to a zapper to see if there is any effect. From what I understand is that these devices create scalar waves. There should be some evidence that orgonite is doing something aside from some people saying they can 'feeling it'. If you don't need any proof and you can feel energy off it then wonderful, but I would like to find some legitimacy behind orgonite claims aside from what onlookers could pass aside as the placebo effect.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inoran, Continued research will bear results similar to the below in ice and growth tests.
Inoran wrote:

I see so many people posting pictures of ice formations that are supposedly the result of orgonite yet I haven't seen anybody test this experiment with any comparison or control group.


Controls shown here.

orygbus wrote:
I had to see for myself....

My CONTROL:



My Experimental w/ Orgonite:


Post is here,
http://www.warriormatrix.com/posting.php?mode=quote&p=78549

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teralux wrote:
Okay, here are my results. The first one is the CONTROL and the other 2 are various configurations of orgonites around the glass. Very interesting...








Did you also miss this ?

orygbus wrote:
affects of orgonite on Rockstar energy drink

(Experimental is on the left w/ Orgonite, CONTROL piece is on the right)


(Closer look at the Experimental (orgonited), it's hard to see, but it had lots of upward spiral of spinals (sim. to the water), looks nice and orgonized


(CONTROL, non-Orgonited) looks messy and chaotic


Top View (Top is the Orgonited,; Bottom is the CONTROL)


(Left = Orgonited; Right = CONTROL) They both have EQUAL amount of energy drink!!!


Post is here.
http://www.warriormatrix.com/about12025.html&sid=f825fbc42a9b634a90ad8 8ffe2d0931f

Inoran wrote:

Also will be created a powered orgone device this weekend to hook up to a zapper to see if there is any effect.


Please, Exercise caution when doing Ice Tests with powered devices, as they tend to break the glass

(Also, refrigerate your powered device before putting it in the freezer . Cycle it back through the refrigerator after the test to thaw slowly. Quick freezes and thaws can cause cracks, because the wrapped crystal and resin/metal matrix may change temperature at different rates setting you up for stress fractures and cracks.)

Sensei wrote:
I have wanted to do an ice test with a powered device for awhile.

The larger glass broke during the test. Glasses have continued to break in any subsequent tests with powered orgonite devices.









Here is the little glass.



Post is here:
http://www.warriormatrix.com/about12580-0.html&sid=e462b09235bece9d17b c65f1e02fbd71



Inoran wrote:
I am a film maker and I would like to make a documentary on orgonite. \


Please let us know if we can help.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 5:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Magnetite will not work as a metal component.

Sand will not work as the crystal component.

Lena will send you some working orgonite.

Do the control FIRST, before putting orgonite in or near the freezer (preferably with the orgonite outside of the building.

Using the Orgonite first (or having it too close), will charge the freezer and skew the result.

What you can expect.
Sensei wrote:














Sprout tests are easy, quick and dramatic BUT keep the control in a different building than the orgonite exposed group.

This post by a board member may interest you. The test bowls were separated, except to take the pictures. Other than the inclusion of orgonite in one bowl, the testing conditions were identical.

Sprout Test By markus5953

http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=6990&highlight=









It is Spring, and your garden will tell you what you want to know.










Stay with it. I promise that you will learn to make wonderful orgonite and that you can produce effective growth and ice tests.

Funny thing though,

by that time,

you no longer need the tests,

to feel the flow.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensei wrote:


Sand will not work as the crystal component.



Does powder quartz work? I've crushed up regular sized quartz.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 11:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anja wrote:
Sensei wrote:


Sand will not work as the crystal component.



Does powder quartz work? I've crushed up regular sized quartz.


Is crushed up quartz, still quartz? Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2014 1:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anja wrote:
Sensei wrote:


Sand will not work as the crystal component.



Does powder quartz work? I've crushed up regular sized quartz.


I use different sized pieces of quartz, from whole crystal down to nano powdered size powders. The powders help, but a whole crystal or plenty of small pieces of quartz seem necessary. You can use the different sized quartz pieces in layers to "Tune" your orgonite piece.

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