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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Julian, I did mine today..won't hi-jack the thread though.. Smile


ab,
Please hijack it. I'd like to see your pictures.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 4:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I continue to get stalagmites, but it seems only with orgone-charged water. I haven't seen them yet with tap water. Need to try steam-distilled water. Also thinking about trying water with a little baking soda added to make the water more conductive; maybe spikes will be higher? More pictures coming soon....

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 20, 2014 5:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brett I admire your inquisitiveness! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

028956blh wrote:
ab wrote:
Julian, I did mine today..won't hi-jack the thread though.. Smile


ab,
Please hijack it. I'd like to see your pictures.

Brett


Brett....as you wish.... here is the link for you.. http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=13801
Nothing like your absolutely amazing results though...lol Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 21, 2014 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ab,
Beautiful ice pictures!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 22, 2014 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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ab,
Beautiful ice pictures!

Brett


Thanks Brett, i don't know much about ice tests but wanted to post to see what others thought of them.. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 8:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Latest Ice Tests: Stalagmite Formations Reply with quote

028956blh wrote:
Here are ice test pictures from two orgonite cones: A and B.

Cones are placed on top of the refrigerator/freezer directly over the ice tray. No other orgonite on or near the fridge. Used drinking water from the Water Lady; not steam distilled. 7" between bottom of cone and top of ice tray. Stalagmite formed in individual cube directly underneath the center of the cone in both cases. Tests done about 3 weeks apart. Enjoy! BTW, I fill up the ice tray almost every day and have not observed this stalagmite phenomenon when there isn't an orgonite piece on top of the fridge.

- Brett

Cone A:


Cone A result:


Cone B:


Cone B set up (same as cone A):


Cone B result:


Wow, just wow... I mean, excuse the language, but WTF, that is AWESOME. I am like Sensei, speechless!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

OK, so I keep doing water tests for the heck of it because I'm always making orgonite and that ice tray gets filled up every day. So why not? But I am not interested in doing meticulous, time-consuming testing to try and isolate parameters or conditions that cause the effect. It's orgonite. It works. Nuf said.

I recently got some Ateco molds and started pouring pyramid shapes for the first time. The mini-pyramids are pretty fun! Anyway, here are pictures of an ice test I did yesterday with two mini-pyramids on top of the freezer compartment. Result: 1 large bent stalagmite and 2 short stubby ones.















I then removed the pyramids (no orgonite on or near the freezer), emptied and refilled the ice tray, then looked in the freezer this morning... one stalagmite at an angle.





Why a stalagmite with no orgonite above the ice tray? Here are my thoughts. There is so much orgonite in my home that the POR flowing through it is significant. Also, I believe energy has an intelligence. It can make choices. If it wants to be seen, it will show itself. If it doesn't, it won't.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 3:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have, on rare occasions, seem similar ice formations in ice cube trays when the ice is made with very, very clean (filtered) water. Like with a Zero Water filter. But it doesn't happen every time, so still a mystery!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 8:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GreenGoldEye wrote:
I have, on rare occasions, seem similar ice formations in ice cube trays when the ice is made with very, very clean (filtered) water. Like with a Zero Water filter. But it doesn't happen every time, so still a mystery!
My first ice test was using distilled water and it made ice formations like this. I thought it was great until I did it again with no orgonite around and it did the same thing. Maybe not quite as many as with orgonite, but close enough that the 'control' seemed to negate that test.
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 01, 2015 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

More fun with ice tests. I put a couple of small orgonite cones on top of the fridge last weekend, near the back, not over the ice tray. Prior to that there was no orgonite on the fridge for about 3 weeks. This is what I got:







I was re-reading CORE by Wilhelm Reich and some Viktor Schauberger this past week. The following jumped out at me regarding life-force (orgone energy) and how it defies gravity.

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From “CORE (Cosmic Orgone Engineering) OROP Desert”, by Wilhelm Reich

(1) Smoke from Chimneys ~
In the open countryside, smoke from chimneys drifts either straight upwards or it lingers more or less parallel to the ground. Some farmers predict good weather when the smoke drifts straight upward, and bad weather when the smoke drifts horizontally. Is there any objective truth in this rule? Orgonomic observation and reasoning tell us: The OR energy envelope expands and reaches far out into space in good weather; on the other hand, it withdraws and concentrates at the surface of the globe before the onset of bad weather (Rheumatic and cancerous patients react to this contraction with "pulling pains". The bio­energetic system responds to the surrounding OR energy ocean). The blue haze disappears from the mountains; the mountains appear to be closer. This withdrawal of OR energy from certain places and its concentration in other regions weakens the expansive force in the atmospheric OR energy which is directed against the pull of gravity. The smoke from chimneys will not be able to lift straight into the atmosphere against the pull of gravity. On the other hand, with even and strong expansion of OR energy the expansive force which counteracts gravity is powerful enough to make the smoke drift straight upwards. We shall encounter this behavior in a different context, in aviation.

(2) Fog ~
The behavior of smoke from chimneys falls in line with the behavior of fog on early autumn mornings. On warm summer days there is rarely any fog in the valleys between mountains except in higher and colder regions. In autumn, on the other hand, fog develops easily in low­lying valleys. As the sun rises, the fog disperses, in certain valleys, the fog drifts horizontally first before it rises and disperses. What could be the reason for this behavior, different in summer and autumn, or in colder and higher, as against in warmer and lower regions? Here again, we must think of the dispersive, expansive qualities of OR energy. In summer, in warmer and in lower regions the expansive, anti­gravity action of the atmospheric OR energy is stronger than in colder or higher regions and in autumn. There is less power available to carry the water vapor and to disperse it high up than is available on warm days, in lower regions. The water vapor will not be able to disperse or to rise. The result will be what is called "fog".
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From “Nature as a Teacher”, by Viktor Shauberger, 1936
"Nature moves everything and creates this movement through various differences in temperature and potential. Where these intersect the primordial life-force is born. There are only a very few people who really know how to observe Nature and to notice these small and almost imperceptible differences in motion, temperature, tension and potential. With them it is possible to overcome physical weight, to switch off the universally recognised Law of Gravity and to demonstrate that the same apparently irrefutable Law of Conservation of Energy is a fallacy. If these two laws, so fundamental to contemporary science and technology, are invalidated, then the crowning law of the latter, in which resistance to motion increases by the square of the increase in the speed of motion, can no longer be upheld. It goes without saying that the collapse of these conformities with law automatically negates the law of heat-equivalence and the law of gravity."

- brett
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 14, 2015 1:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Brett,

your ice tests caught my attention some time ago when I found this thread, the pictures of the ice stalagmites are amazing! I think they defy any 'conventional' knowledge or logic. I know for sure that it is caused by the orgone field generated by the orgonite cones, but how? One very curious detail is the angle at which the stalagmites grew from the mass of water. Some of the stalagmites grew at very sharp angles related to the surface of the water...
Recently I have been reading a few articles in some russian sites from enthusiasts and researchers of orgone energy and free energy in general and found one which recalled me your experiment and may be a good starting point in the search for an explanation.

The article is a from a guy named Andej Lemeshko titled Temporary accumulator of energy. He bases his experiment on the theories of W. Reich but also on research work of a scientist from Belorus called Veinik.

Basically in one part of his article he mentions that the orgone field is capable of changing the density of substances since the orgone charged particles of the substance mutually repells. Veinik made a series of experiments in which he melted some metal and during the cooling process he exposed it to an orgone field. The structure of the metal therefore changed by the influence of the orgone field. In the article this gentlemen calls the orgone energy as chronon, a term coined by Veinik from the greek word chronos since he suppoosed that this field has also some relation to the concept of time.

Lemeshko in his experiment used a pyramid with its tip removed and filled with water (the diagram may be found in the article). He states that the orgone field is capable of creating a so called 'orgonic boiling of water'. The water particles inside the pyramid are charged by the orgone field (he compares the pyramid effect on water to a lens), the charged particles repells each other but also are repelled outwards by the orgone envelope from the
Earth as well, causing the more charged particles to go upwards, a kind of boiling effect on the surface of the water. This is in accordance to the findings of Reich which observed a small increment in temperature due to the influence of the orgone field.

So may be this curious effect that you obtained with the ice test is due to the changed density of the water (less density I suppose) and under the influence of the orgone field of the orgonite cones and also the orgone field from the Earth itself. I think an important detail is that the water is contained in a relatively small volume as in the ice mold, while freezing the surface of the water does a kind of curve, but since the upper areas of this formation has slightly higher temperature (again by the mutually repelled particles which causes more friction) they continue to be repelled upwrds by the orgone field (and importantly in the direction of the orgone field, thus the weird angles that correspond to the direction of the orgone field at this particular place)

Well, I hope my english level didn't ruined the idea I wanted to express and it was understandable enough Laughing

If you wish to take a look at the article (unfortunately it is in russian, but there are some interesting diagrams worth looking at), here is the link:

http://zhurnal.lib.ru/l/lemeshko_a_w/ap.shtml

I tried to obtain an english version of it with google translator but it sounded horrible Shocked

Please keep posting your findings, they are excellent!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello hekiwhi!
I resonate with what you are saying. Thank you for the references. I will check them out.

I'm enjoying Viktor Shauberger's works. A lot of them are available free on-line. As a lifelong forester in Austria, he spent his life observing and documenting nature, water and energies. Viktor concluded there are two opposing forces on Earth - a gravitational (pulling) force and a levitational (outwardly expanding) force. They are almost in balance, with gravity normally slightly stronger, which keeps us on the ground. There are ways to change the balance in favor of orgone energy and achieve levitational results. The ice stalagmite phenomenon (in my opinion) is one observable effect of an increase of the anti-gravitational, expansionary orgone energy, accomplished by putting an orgone generator above the ice tray.

Viktor observed cases in nature where living things and objects levitated. Here's one case. He parked himself at the bottom of a waterfall in the middle of the night to catch a poacher, who was dumping lime in the pool and killing the freshwater salmon. While waiting, Viktor saw all the salmon scatter. "Why?", he thought. Then a large salmon appeared from the depths. It swam over to the bottom of the waterfall and started swimming in an oval (egg-shaped) pattern and momentarily disappeared. When it reappeared, it was vertical and it slowly - but steadily - "floated" up the waterfall, against the friction of the current, to the top of the waterfall, where it lunged and flipped over into the upstream flow. He observed this many times in his life. This explains how salmon are able to swim upstream, even when impeded by waterfalls. Fascinating!

There appears to be a special relationship between water and orgone energy that I want to learn more about. I can't help but think I'm going to learn something in Viktor's documented experiences that can either be applied to orgonite, or that deepens my understanding of what's going on. Let's face it, there's always something else to learn, right?

Another thing about water. Viktor states that water comes to life and exhibits amazing energies at night. When exposed to direct sunlight, it becomes lazy and listless. Interesting. If true (seems reasonable), then I would not charge my water in the sunlight. Differences in temperature gradients are factors and he talks about an "anomaly" temperature for water of 39.2 degrees F (if my recollection is accurate). As water approaches that temperature, interesting things happen.

I'll continue sharing interesting ice test results as i observe them. Thank you for the dialog.

- brett
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

" Let's face it, there's always something else to learn, right? "

Exactly, and it's one reason I enjoy this place, in that most everyone is endlessly curious about the world. They are not content with the "official version" of the world that's being foisted on us.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 08, 2015 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Haven't done any ice tests per se reccently. Two small energy cones have been on top of the fridge for a few weeks, so there's a well-established orgone energy field. My wife filled up the ice tray yesterday and this is what she found.

I'm sharing these because this is the first time I've seen multiple stalagmites without the cone being directly over the ice tray, and inside the freezer compartment.

Two psychic friends stopped by just before the ice tray was filled and we were all buzzing with lots of positive energy. Maybe that had something to do with it. Who knows? It's just a lot of fun!

-brett









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