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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:24 pm    Post subject: White Light Trap? Reply with quote

Hello,

It's been a while since I was online. I've recently read some quite contradictive things, regarding souls and death.

One one hand we have people who have been through near death experiences who say that they move through a tunnel and are drawn to a light, and that the light is jesus/god/the source.

On the other hand, others are claiming that these lights are fake lights made by aliens or other malevolent beings to draw in souls, (some say these lights are made by the grays and that they project images of the souls loved ones, for example a mother or brother, so that the soul is compelled to go there) and once the souls are trapped in the light the malevolent beings recondition/recycle them or wipe the memory slate and send them back to earth for reincarnation. There's so much misinformation on the net nowadays, and I would like to know your personal opinion on this. Any experiences, any information that will shed some light on this strange subject?

I personally believe that this is misinformation, but I'm so confused I can't tell anymore.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 6:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If it promotes fear and is fear based it's false imo. You could also turn it around and say that the conspiracy of the white light trap and malevolent et's is being spread in order to make people afraid of going where they are supposed to go, and also to fear 'aliens'. Fear disempowers people.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Of all of the conspiracy theories, the idea that the White Light is a trap to recycle souls back to physical bodies, is one not so easily dismissed.

Disturbing as it may be, the possibility does exist.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had personal experience that indicates this is a real possibility. There's a massive amount of information here. You'll have to hunt for it, but it's worth it if this is important to you.

http://wespenre.com/

If you're interested in myths and legends and if you would like to explore the history before the history we know, then this may be just what you need. If not, it will probably bore you to tears.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 19, 2014 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensei wrote:
Of all of the conspiracy theories, the idea that the White Light is a trap to recycle souls beck to physical bodies, is one not so easily dismissed.

Disturbing as it may be, the possibility does exist.

Sєηѕєι

Interesting. Care to elaborate? Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's just reincarnation, karma and quarantine. It's no big deal. It doesn't mean there are malevolent forces behind the curtain. But that's what the Cabal would have us believe because it keeps people afraid.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just don't believe "negative" forces are given total control and domination over our death.

of all the stuff i heard, it's tunnel to white light, meeting with a being doing a life review, then plan your next life and incarnation for learning.

i really, REALLY doubt the grays have the technology and capability to pull off such a high level conspiracy.

also I've heard memory being wiped is simply to preserve the newly incarnated beings free-will.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just a side issue, but the term 'greys', while handy, is a bit like the space version of 'blacks'. There are good and bad factions in many races, but it isn't helpful to tar everyone of a particular race with the same brush. I believe the bad ones are happy to spread disinfo about themselves and make themselves seem all powerful and evil because it suits their fear agenda. The good ones then have to pretend to be something other than what they are, and mask themselves, which unfortunately just feeds peoples fear of deceptiveness because of the way the bad ones have behaved, in league with the Cabal.

When it comes to having our memories wiped, we knew what the mission was here before we came here, and we were willing to do it. Having memory wiped doesn't mean we cannot have them all back when we are able to cope with it or regain them at transition from this life, but when we return most of us will not remember who we were before because it wouldn't serve our mission as not many can handle it in these bodies, and it can be a distraction. The human brain can only deal with so much. Human life is painful in many ways and it is not generally a good idea to be burdened with the pain of past lives while trying to cope with the present one, so to make life easier we usually opt for temporary memory 'wipe'. We have a choice, which is what the Cabal would have us believe we don't have.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 1:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"The years of Rice and Salt" by Kim Stanley Robinson

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since you asked for our opinions... here's mine. Not something I just splash about usually, but this is a subject that is quite dear to my heart.

The first thing to remember is that even though this place (Earth) feels real, it is NOT reality. Whatever comes after this life, that is reality (let's not get into a discussion of multiple levels of reality / dimensions just now).

Once you get to the point that you realize that this place is not reality, then you can ponder what IS this place really? In my opinion, this place (Earth, solar system, universe) is PURGATORY. I know, I know it's a Catholic term, but it's a great way to describe an inbetween place that we cannot easily escape. A waiting room of sorts. An oasis. A trap.

I believe that we (all of us here, even Them -- the aliens / Elites / Nephilim / Archons / Whatever you want to call them ) are imprisoned here (yes, I do mean prison) and we are also a part of a PAGEANT. There is some sort of war or contest going on, and they are keeping the score with a counting of souls.

For a long time I rejected the idea of the classic heaven / hell scenario, and in some ways I still do, but I cannot help but feel that while my life may be in pretty good shape, so many other unfortunate people are trapped in hell on earth RIGHT NOW that the only way I can reconcile it to make sense is if we have multiple chances to incarnate, that some people never get out of the recycle / lifecycle / loop and other people do get out -- and then volunteer to go back in to help those others *stuck* to see that there is something else they can do besides be stuck in the materialism / greed / debauchery that is the base-ness that mires them here.

I think that people like you and me, and everyone here on WM are those who managed to escape at some point in a past incarnation and have come back here to this time to help others get out. The trick is, that every time we go back, we run the risk of being trapped here again ourselves.

Whether I got much 'right' about how it all works isn't important to me. Because it feels right, right now, and once I came to this place in my philosophy was when I started experiencing everything that orgonite had to offer ... and after that came energy sensitivity (still learning more about myself all the time) and a certain equanimity about the way the world works that I could never have experienced before.

So this is my philosophy right now, at least, until I find some more interesting tidbits to mix in with it. It never really stops growing and changing, because I never stop learning Smile

Also, Ruth's link to Wes Penre is a great one to read!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote





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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been toying with the idea lately, that there is a higher dimension, but it is not possible to create consciousness and free will there, and so this is what our dimension is for.

And so, as a butterfly starts as a caterpillar...

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

GreyWeirCat wrote:
I've been toying with the idea lately, that there is a higher dimension, but it is not possible to create consciousness and free will there, and so this is what our dimension is for.

And so, as a butterfly starts as a caterpillar...


Or, in other words, we are divinities taking form here in order to learn how to be divine. Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 2:09 pm    Post subject: I have been pondering this too Reply with quote

Read Cameron Day's - "Why I am not a lightworker - PART 2.. Since I currently believe that archons exist, we should not brush off this idea. Have to agree with Sensei, something about it rings true to me though.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 20, 2014 3:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Problem is, both theories are equally sound in their logic. On one hand it makes sense that we forget temporarily so that we can learn (I have done this and come quite far), and that malevolent beings spread this disinformation to seed fear in people. On the other hand, it's equally logical that the white light thing is a trap. If we advance and keep forgetting what or who we are, it'll slow our progress (depending on the person). Don't know what to think.
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