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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 8:30 pm    Post subject: Are we Really at the top of the Food Chain ? Reply with quote

Do we Really want to go into the Light after Death ?

Wayne Bush makes a good case against it.

Are we harvested for our energy ?

http://www.trickedbythelight.com/tbtl/index.html

Hear an interview with Greg Carlson here:

http://thehighersidechats.com/wayne-bush-tricked-by-the-light-conspira cy-interview/

Not for the faint of heart !

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 10, 2015 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes.

Been looking for information since I was small. I have a list I wrote as a child, asking the same kind of questions.

Who am I? Why am I so different?
Why am I here?
Why am I the way that I am?

What is this world?
Why is it so wonderful?
Why is it so terrible?

Why all the lies everywhere?
Why is there no honesty?
Why is everyone so BLIND?

What is "normal"? It makes no sense.

Been looking for answers all my life. Studied myths and legends and fairy tales. Read fantasy and SF. Read physics, geology, archaeology, and religion. Studied psychology.

Now reading galactic history. IMO this is right on.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 8:10 pm    Post subject: Interesting Reply with quote

And you thought my snuff party article was a downer Laughing Unfortunately, a lot of this rings true. I almost hope there is no afterlife because this "white light trap" debate is a mindbreaker with no clearcut answer.

On another note: language is an effective tool to communicate with others and store information, however, I have observed that most of my thoughts (language) tend to get negative and focus on what is lacking or deal with problems that aren't happening or will never happen. Our own thinking can be our greatest torturer. " In the end, all of us live as vassals to this lord (thought) and this is the source of all our problems." - Uchiyama Kosho Roshi. The old zen boys used to say thinking is good for solving a specific problem requiring a descision but other than that not much use. Thankfully I have found ways to lessen the self inflicted torture, however, it is a daily challenge and requires a lot of awareness and energy. However, I am glad that I have tried over many years to lessen the tyranny of passing thoughts. I have only experienced racing thoughts a few times in my life and I have deep sympathy for those who deal with it on a regular basis and even worse those who are TI. I highly recommend trying various meditation techniques and find what best works for you. I got on this rant because in the article it talks about language being a spell and I wholeheartedly agree. I
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 11, 2015 10:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Diogenes, this will definitely interest you: "The Secret Spells of the English Language." The author, Laurel Airica, believes the words we speak aloud are actually spells we cast at one another. For example, we describe seven days of the WEEK. (weak). And when we come to the end of the WEEK (weak), we are at the WEEKEND (weakened).

This was eye-opening, to put it very very mildly. I consider my words more carefully ever since.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mJTpwe3OiV8
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 1:48 pm    Post subject: Holy Cow Reply with quote

Wow Kieron! you really opened a can of worms with that! Not watching what I say and how I say it is probably one of my biggest flaws. A Lot to work on with this. I hope I have the level of awareness and energy to deal with these implicatons.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, we are harvested.

No we aren't even close to the top of the food chain.

Nice thing to remember though -- neither are 'They'.

I am getting closer to understanding the parts in play, but I don't have all the pieces yet.

Here is my current philosophy - always changing, growing, incorporating, discarding, gnosis...

1. we are imprisoned (reincarnation cycle is a trick to keep us here)
2. the creator of this domain feeds on the friction of our lives (hence wars, suffering, etc)
3. water is very important - I believe it is the material manifestation of the energy that flows through everything - made denser here, because we are further away than most from the source of it all, and this is why it is such an important commodity to control here, i.e. agenda 21
4. the earth is a node on the 'grid' / matrix / net and connecting to the energy of the earth bypasses the creator of this domain (who stands over us) and instead connects us, however remotely, to source energy
5. the source of everything, the beginning, is the prime scalar wave, who saw it's own vibration and created light
6. however alone we might feel, we are only one earth of hundreds(millions?) that are trapped in the same manner -- as this is a fractal holographic universe
7. I have forgiven the creator of this domain for his imperfect creation because he could not do otherwise - as he is himself, an imperfect creation. However, his chief sin was avarice in assuming that he could do the same or
better than the source [prime scalar wave].
8. It all makes sense when one reads the Pistis Sophia and the Apocryphon of John. The God of the Bible is not the prime scalar wave.
9. This is also a contest between light and dark... think the Book of Job... and it never ended
10. The creator of our domain is himself imprisoned, force to watch his creation play out without abandoning it, without destroying it, without interfering.
11. When you die, you may experience a past life review -- you may also force the creator of the domain to experience it with you. As above, so below. Inevitably, the sins played out here are all owed to the creator of this domain, and once it is realized that 'he' is to blame, he must experience all the pain and suffering 'he' caused. This is one of the big reasons that the reincarnation cycle exists -- as long as humans are tricked into thinking that they are to blame, 'he' won't experience our pain. It's very selfish. And cowardly. I plan to give him what-for when it's my turn.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 4:04 pm    Post subject: Gnostic Reply with quote

Hi Gold Green Eye, You should read some John Lash (Not in his Image) You are leaving the Aeon Sophia out of the equation,( in my opinion). She created and is embodied in the earth.You can come in contact with her especially in nature. lord archon (Yaldaboath, YWH, Jehovah) just has the arrgance to believe he is the creator. Go to Gaiaspora.com, then go to nav briefings, play the one called "boost of the earth". Be patient and listen to it. It will blow your mind. Listen to the part where he talks about the only metaphysics you need to know. The gnostics believe that the "Originator" created everything (Scalar Wave in your terminology) However, Sophia is your immediate creator and easier to make contact with. This is the paradigm I am currently playing with, however, like you I am learning new things everyday and am willing to change. You are free to believe what you want, I'm just telling you about where my head is currently at.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 5:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Prime Vibration (also whom I think of as Source) created the pleroma and all it encompasses, and then Sophia had a thought and manifested Yaldabaoth, whom in turn, created us.... (including a Sophia of his own progeny whom in turn created another sub-Yaldaboth, whom in turn created another Sophia, etc etc. as the creation takes on the blueprint of the master -- but the further from Source the domain is created, the darker it is and the harder it is to connect back to source).

But in a Fractal, Holographic universe, there are many Sophia's descended from the original, and many Yaldaboath's who were in turn created by her and then in turn created worlds like ours. This is where the multiple timeline idea really has it's roots.

I am still discovering as I said, and I will check out your recommendation, but the most important thing I have learned so far is that I am my own teacher... and anything written down by man has, of course, been corrupted by man. By which I mean, even the information given in the Pistis Sophia, the Apocryphon of John and your information from John Lash holds only pieces of the gnosis. No offense, I hope. Wink
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember how the "Go into the light" meme was spread in our contemporary culture ?


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Do you trust Hollywood ?

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 6:36 pm    Post subject: I beg to differ Reply with quote

I beg to differ Sensei, Go into the light is the main insturction of the Tibetan Book of the Dead which is quite old. Supposedly written by Padmasambhava. The archons have been here since the beginning.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 7:39 pm    Post subject: Re: I beg to differ Reply with quote

diogenes wrote:
I beg to differ Sensei, Go into the light is the main insturction of the Tibetan Book of the Dead which is quite old. Supposedly written by Padmasambhava. The archons have been here since the beginning.


Into "our contemporary" culture.

T.T.B.O.T.D. mentions several lights from clear to smokey.

Good point.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 12, 2015 10:56 pm    Post subject: Becoming one with god Reply with quote

This idea gives a whole new meaning to "becoming one with god" Castaneda talks about a persons energy being eaten by the eagle upon death. You know when we r in deep dreamless sleep we give up our consciousness and body willingly.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi I tried the gaiaspora site and looks like it isn't operational?

IMO if Hollywood is pushing to go to the light then it's probably best to do the opposite.



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 13, 2015 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Seeking and discovering the truth - step by step along the way - is the path that leads away from fear and towards empowerment and freedom. FWIW, my inner self tells me to avoid the light.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 15, 2015 4:35 pm    Post subject: Pretty Lame Reply with quote

Was looking at this cat's idea of where to go instead of the light, and in my opinion, they are pretty lame alternatives.
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