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Blackshades
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:30 pm    Post subject: Using insects in Orgonite Reply with quote

A certain YouTuber used animal furs in his orgonite and had a psychic blindly read the energy. Long story short, each fur had a certain effect on the energy.

Going along those thoughts -
I found a dead spider and beetle when I was pouring my last batch of orgonite and decided to add them to the mixture. Has anyone done this, and if so, what did it do to the energy?

Im considering going to petsmart and picking up a bag of crickets to do some experiments Cool
perhaps the energy will feel more... lively? energetic? jumpy? Laughing


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like a really bad idea to me... why would you put dead animals into a life force generating device?

Whereas I have had bugs fly into curing pieces I would never intentionally scout something dead or kill to put into it - sounds like pretty bad juju to me to do so on purpose... akin to animal sacrifice... ugh...

Rolling Eyes

Bigger issue... question yourself and see what part of you thinks that this may be a good idea? Cause I honestly don't think that kind of thinking is coming from the heart...

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 4:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They were dead anyways, and they used to have life in them, so it makes sense to me that they would have energy of sorts about them. Same sort of principle for fossils - they used to be an animal but they have decomposed into rock form. except well - in my case we arent waiting that long, and they are insects.

Plus - do you really think petsmart sells crickets as pets? Frog food, silly!

You;re funny Lena - you remind me of my mother Smile
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 26, 2015 7:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please don't sacrifice live crickets to your orgonite in order to try and impart some of their spirit into your pieces. Just because the pet store sells them as food, that doesn't make it right. At all.

They are plenty of different types of crystals with amazing qualities that you could use if you want to mix it up a little.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackshades wrote:
They were dead anyways, and they used to have life in them, so it makes sense to me that they would have energy of sorts about them. )


I'm not sure that really does make sense. When insects are alive they certainly have life energy and a degree of consciousness. Once they die and their essence/spirit/life force departs, they leave behind a bit of dried protein which will soon be dust. The notion that the discarded remains of an insect (or any other creature) is going to have a useful effect on orgonite seems far fetched.

I would second the notion that adding dead creatures, or killing live creatures on purpose to make orgonite, seems to go against the idea of orgonite as a POR generating material. Most orgonite enthusiasts agree that intention is an important part of pouring orgonite, and what is the nature of the intention that wants to mix a bit of death into their favorite orgonite recipe?
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Putting death energy into orgonite? Don't think so. That feels like contaminating orgone physics, the physics of growth and transformation, with entropy physics, the physics of decay and death. Not for me.

Choices have consequences.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 5:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Choices have consequences? Crap you're right - a cricket is probably going to summon a swarm of buddies and brutally maul me now. Probably shouldn't have added it to the orgonite. Rolling Eyes

You cant make negative or bad orgonite - it just isnt possible. You cant really talk about physics when talking about orgonite because orgonite has its own set of rules but I see where you were going with that. The intention is always to generate POR and to rid the atmosphere and area of DOR - a very objective, clean cut intention of growth and success.

After seeing the youtube video of adding animal furs to orgonite i'm convinced that anything and everything you put in the mix will contribute to the flavor of the energy - so therefore it is my personal belief that putting insects or whatever else in the mix will change the energy. (Not in a bad way, because well - thats not how orgonite works)

Sorry you all dont like the idea but hey I did ask for opinions so carry on Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 2:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Blackshades wrote:

You cant make negative or bad orgonite - it just isnt possible. You cant really talk about physics when talking about orgonite because orgonite has its own set of rules but I see where you were going with that. The intention is always to generate POR and to rid the atmosphere and area of DOR - a very objective, clean cut intention of growth and success.


I think one can certainly talk about physics when discussing orgonite, even if doing so takes one to the bleeding edge of our understanding of the universe. Perhaps it could be said that orgonite is part of a new physics that is finally recognizing the subtle energies behind physical "reality". Prana, chi, etc. have obviously been recognized since the dawn of humanity but they have been deliberately ignored by modern "scientists" for quite some time.

I believe some of the more progressive physicists are beginning to acknowledge the impact of consciousness on what we perceive as reality. That being the case, can we really say that you can't make bad orgonite? I'm not saying that you aren't right about that--I don't really know. But given that orgonite science is in many ways a spiritual science as well as a physical one, I would personally be reluctant to make such an assumption. It is certainly possible to make ineffective orgonite if one doesn't get the recipe right.

If you are correct and orgonite can be "flavored" with things like animal fur or dead crickets without having a detrimental effect on its ability to convert DOR to POR, then it brings it around to the same question: why do you want that flavor? If a basic orgonite recipe works well, why would someone add dead crickets to change the flavor? Do you really want dead cricket flavored orgonite? Or cat fur flavored? Personally, if I were going to add something organic to the mix I might go with an essential plant oil--rosemary, lavender, etc.. I love my cats but I don't think I want their fur in my orgonite Wink
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I'm a vegan soo.....yeah. Lol. Maybe we should leave the insects and animals alone and let them do their jobs in the ecosystem.

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geo wrote:
I love my cats but I don't think I want their fur in my orgonite Wink


Chances are, if you have cat/s there will be fur in at least some of your orgonite. Cat fur gets EVERYWHERE! Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your input sensei. Interesting looking device you have there.

Geo - I have tried using various herbs but it makes the orgonite stay sticky and leaky. I have tried sage whole herb, rhodiola powder, and ant extract powder - but the orgonite simply never cures properly. I wonder why that is honestly.

I am one of those people where the basics are never enough. I always ask what if? and never stop exploring possibilities - so it got me thinking about the true bounds of orgonite. Yes - for sure - you can make orgonite by the book since its proven to work well, but Im just one of those weirdos who likes trying lots of different things for shits and giggles Very Happy

Spider:
I asked one of my sensitive friends to examine the energy of the orgonite I put the dead spider in. He said it makes him feel uneasy - like he doesnt really want to hold it, and said it feels "creepy and crawling." I then told him there is a spider in it and he dropped the orgonite immediately Laughing
Coincidence or not, but noted for whats its worth - an observation. He normally responds well to my orgonite.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 27, 2015 11:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS...

Everything I have read from you so far shows me that your motivations are very far from many of the amazing gifters on this board.

I loathe to think of someone giving the first orgonite experience to someone, handing them a creepy dead spider piece just to get a reaction... you really come across as someone I wouldn't want to meet...

Ugh...

Do you have any gifting stories?

On another note... If you truly connect with your heart you will KNOW... where the truth is... and any stupid ideas will be clearly seen as what they are - stupid ideas... whereas good ideas will come across as inspiration - unless of course you decide to stick with stupid... LOL...

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 12:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ugh, that is pretty inappropriate, to be party to someone's first experience with orgonite with dead bugs..

To kind of "clear the air" from thinking about that... I have used certain flowers in orgonite. Some work well but many do not, being too fragile or too multi-dimensional in shape to fit inside a TB or other piece. The first time I tried it, I asked the flower silently if it minded being a test subject, and when I didn't pick up any dissent or refusal from it, I tried it. The results were interesting, and some recipients reported that the pieces had a "sweetness" to them.

I recently picked up a copy of "Love Is In The Earth" by Melody, and she likens crystals, gemstones and rocks to flowers that grow in the earth rather than above-ground. Once I made this connection, I have wondered if certain flowers would correspond to certain stones in orgonite. An interesting experiment, Blackshades, perhaps one you could try if you are a "What if?" person, rather than putting dead insects into orgonite.

As for herbs, it can be done without sticky or uncured pieces resulting. Gabeff has done it quite successfully. Maybe he will explain how he did it.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 28, 2015 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

liberta wrote:

Chances are, if you have cat/s there will be fur in at least some of your orgonite. Cat fur gets EVERYWHERE! Smile


Truly! I've often wondered if I haven't ingested enough cat fur and dander in my life to make a couple of spare cats Smile
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