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Johnnyusa
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 5:11 am    Post subject: Is a chembuster a lighning rod? Anyone had a strike? Reply with quote

I am a little worried about this chembuster i am going to build since the thought occurred to me, after reading someone mention the idea in a post, that a chembuster is basically a lightning rod. Is this thing dangerous to set up next to my house? Maybe I should just build a bunch of organite without the pipes on it if it's dangerous.
Shouldn't a chembuster have the copper pipes grounded with a thick wire in case of a lightning strike? I live in a medium size house with a small backyard, but I was going to set it up out back pretty close to the structure (our house). I mean, how could a ten-foot copper pole NOT attract lightning? That's what lightning rods are made of, btw- metal poles or pipes attached to thick grounded copper wires. I don't want to blow a hole in the side of my house from an errant strike or ungrounded lightning rod.
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 10:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont think there is an actual record of a cb being hit being hit by a bolt.

If one examine the actual design of a Melsen antenna (Thunder rod) it is notable that a cb is an incomplete thunder rod. I t would require a zinc or alu tips on the pipes, or any electronegative material.

And then there is the tesla loop effect or EM anti-signal most probably occuring around the pipes, making it borderline impossible for the lightning to strike, at least that is what i think.

Hope it answer your question.

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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that does answer my question, i guess- thank you, Starseed. Bc if CBs DO act as actual lightning rods then I'm sure numerous people on this forum would have reported this to be a problem, & you guys would tell me. I have never read anywhere or seen on google searches CBs causing lightning strikes, so prolly you are right. I just don't understand how these huge copper rods could possibly NOT attract lightning. For example, it's not a good idea to stand under a tree or swing a golf club during a lightning storm bc the organic material of the body, or orgon resin of a cb, is an easier conductor of electricity than the tree or golf club that acts as an attractive antenna. But you kindly provide a scientific explanation like a true scientist:

If one examine the actual design of a Melsen antenna (Thunder rod) it is notable that a cb is an incomplete thunder rod. I t would require a zinc or alu tips on the pipes, or any electronegative material.

Maybe it would make me feel better to consult a lightning rod installer and ask him if he or she thinks this is safe. If he says it isn't safe then that PROVES it's an orgonite field thingy preventing the lightning strikes, bc obviously it's not a problem for anybody around here right.
That would be a interesting experiment to build a complete CB and put it on the roof of your house to act as an orgonite lightning rod by making the cb a completed lightning rod or Melsen antenna by putting zinc / Al tips on the pipes and ground the cb properly w thick copper wire, like a real lightning rod. Channeling the energy from the lightning strike into the copper mobius coil wrapped around the crystal before the electricity discharges safely thru the copper ground wire. Like in Back To the Future Smile Or maybe the orgonite matrix that the completed lightning rod CB is encased in would ward off lightning strikes, in which case we just invented a new lightning rod- the Orgon Lightning Rod- occasionally creating rips in the fabric of spacetime SURE to get orgone energy mentioned on the news!!
Seriously tho, I lost my job in November and moved back in w/ my mom recently so I'm sure you can understand she would not be very happy with me if my funny-looking chembuster attracted lightning and blew a hole in the side of our house. Thanks for answering my question again. I wonder does the CB need to have a clear view of the sky, like a direct tv dish, or will it work just as good placed under a big tree?
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 4:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A friend and I made a CB. It's deployed on a hilltop. It's never been hit. The metal pipes are just not that tall.

Don't know how many CBs the members here have. IMO at least half of our members have made one. That's a lot of CBs. None have ever reported being hit.

I'm more concerned by transients stealing the copper. When I make another, I'll cover the rods with PVC pipe.

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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2016 8:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

intesrestingly enough, we just had a major thunder storm here the other day. counting 496 stikes per hour on strike meter(free online meter or app) at the peak of the storm as it came in from the east. The CB wth copper pipes which is close to the bui;ding here & is grounded with copper wire & earth pipe was fine. Not ever heard of any probs like that with CB.

Would ground CB though anyhow if you concerned. Works better that way anyhow from what i can see.

Best of luck with your CB & orgonite making.
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PostPosted: Wed May 18, 2016 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

On a side note, and I have mentioned this before on the forum, my brother would put a penny in the wash on top of the chimney he built as a hallmark.

They all have been struck by lightning (or so he says).

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was doing some research on how to build a lightning rod and found a couple interesting things. One, the tip of the lightning rod needs to be sharpened for easy ion flow between negative sky n positive ground. So since we don't sharpen the ends of the pipes that should make it safer. I wonder if pointy tips would increase orgone flow as well?

Second, the lightning rod only needs to be about 12 inches long; of course, this is intended to be placed at the highest point of a structure, ie the chimney, so hopefully my six foot pipes will be fine so long as they are on the ground, & grounded. But how does one properly ground a lightning rod?
----According to my main source on eHow.com, the LR needs to be grounded by a 9 foot copper or steel rod that is buried at least 8 feet in the ground.
------Lastly, the problem is that the device is not properly grounded unless a 1' stranded copper cable is fitted to each pipe/LR with a lightning rod wire clamp & connected to the grounding rod, which I have no plans to do.

Maybe I should just bury the whole orgonite matrix base in the earth to ground it somewhat for better orgone performance, but I am afraid if there WAS a lightning strike to the cableless pipes there would still be a big explosion, but not as bad as if the orgone matrix left unburied.

I'm not really that worried about it bc everybody says lightning isn't a problem, altho the only reason I can fathom why this thing WOULDN'T attract lightning is bc of the orgone pipes balancing the negative charge of the sky to the positive charge of the ground, in a different way than a LR using orgone energies rather than ions. But doesn't it need a REALLY good ground to do that effectively?

Maybe attaching the cable to top pipes like a lightning rod isn't a bad idea. It sounds alot like the bottom half of Starseed's Aegis, except the bottom pipes not insulated from orgonite matrix. Would copper cables in the top pipes hinder the orgone oscillations?

Trying to think of an effective way to ground it besides burying the damn beautiful thing I'm building from Silmar 41. The thought occurred to me that encasing a 9 foot vertical copper rod (attached to Aegis cables) into the orgonite matrix then burying the rod in a hole, but then it wouldn't be able to moved, like, EVER, w/o digging up a 9 foot rod. HOWEVER, A NICE THICK COPPER WIRE (attached to Starseed's Aegis cables) COMING OUT THE SIDE OF THE ORGONITE MATRIX COULD THEN BE ELECTRICALLY CONNECTED TO THE BURIED 9 FOOT COPPER ROD. A powerful ground such as this would make a more effective orgonite device, no, in addition to being safer (er) in case of a lightening strike?

That ground plus an uninsulated Aegis n u practically have a lightning rod, minus the full-rod cables and pointed tips. Cool idea from the peanut gallery, right, but perhaps a bit too much for my first cb tho. Ya think?

http://www.ehow.com/how_8040028_homemade-lightning-rods.html
http://engineering.mit.edu/ask/how-do-you-make-and-install-lightning-r od


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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am getting better now at using the search function. I think I'll do it like Starseed said: "...for my cb i use a 1/4 inch threaded bolt, plungedin the matrix, connected either to a rod in the ground or through a wire and a socket plug to the electric grid of the house."

I still like my idea of connecting Starseed's Aegis cables to the 1/4' ss threaded bolt encased in the matrix then bolt connected to grounding rod, for increased ion & orgone flow.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 10:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question !
I have modified your title to see if anyone has had a lightening strike on their CB.

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2016 5:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you, sir. My impression from this thread is nobody has had a lightning strike. Perhaps I am just overly cautious.

I'm not sure how to make those electrical connections between wire to wire & wire to grounding rod tho & I'm running out of time n money to build this thing. I think I just need to build a regular cb for now n next year do an Aegis & possibly try this idea out.

Ps Sensei I am not getting email notifications from WM when people post to this thread or any of the others I've commented on. I really wish I could get reply notification to work. Any suggestions for me on that?
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