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Brionnfhionn
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:25 pm    Post subject: cracked resin repair. Reply with quote

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I was wondering if there is any way to repair cracked resin. Has anyone tried smashing and recasting? The cracks surround an amethyst crystal. I would imagine the resin would just fall away or could be picked off after chiseling. It was the hot weather that did it. Such a shame as it was an unique multi-layered chakra piece. Otherwise, maybe i should just live with it as special effect.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd probably opt to enjoy it the way it is.

It is possible to save most of your ingredients by immersing the piece in acetone in an airtight container for a few weeks to dissolve the resin. I you decide to try this, make sure the ingredients are completely free of the solvent before recasting.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had success with the following for deep cracks near the tip that go to the surface. With a Dremel tool, cut grooves/channels where the cracks are. Don't be afraid to go deep or get aggressive. Then either with high pressure air or a stiff brush, clear out all the loose material from the grooves. Lay the pyramid on its side in sand in a small container. Level one of the surfaces with exposed grooves and adhere scotch tape along the sides near the tip. Pour catalyzed resin into the crack(s) using a pin to drip the resin precisely into the crack and to pop air bubbles as required. Put enough resin in so it is a little higher than the surrounding area because polyester resin shrinks a little. After it cures, repeat as necessary on the other sides. When finished, sand the repaired areas flush, wet sand, then polish/buff. I've saved several pieces this way. Works like a charm.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 8:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

028956blh wrote:
I've had success with the following for deep cracks near the tip that go to the surface. With a Dremel tool, cut grooves/channels where the cracks are. Don't be afraid to go deep or get aggressive. Then either with high pressure air or a stiff brush, clear out all the loose material from the grooves. Lay the pyramid on its side in sand in a small container. Level one of the surfaces with exposed grooves and adhere scotch tape along the sides near the tip. Pour catalyzed resin into the crack(s) using a pin to drip the resin precisely into the crack and to pop air bubbles as required. Put enough resin in so it is a little higher than the surrounding area because polyester resin shrinks a little. After it cures, repeat as necessary on the other sides. When finished, sand the repaired areas flush, wet sand, then polish/buff. I've saved several pieces this way. Works like a charm.

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Not your first rodeo, aye Brett ? That is a great technique.

Brionn, if you try this please keep us informed of your progress.

Now, on to WHY it cracked. Room temperature crystal and hot cure resin = cracked tip. Sometimes using 2 part epoxies as well.

Cure: Warm crystal immediately before using. Warm it until you can hold it in your hand, but only for a few seconds.

This will accelerate curing speed considerably so be ready for a quick cure. Use less than usual catalyst in succeeding layers to compensate for the faster curing resin.

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh thanks guys, you've given me some great tips here. I'll have a think about how i'm going to tackle it and will of course report back. I'll certainly remember to warm the crystal next time.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a similar experience the day before yesterday with my first powered device, except the very tip top busted off.

It did leave some agate and black tourmaline, looks good otherwise and has a presence the room when powered up.

A little too much hardener in this heat, and immersion in ice while still very hot, was the culprit.

A way of saying I was the culprit Rolling Eyes

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mike, I fixed corners and tips of pyramids broken off using the same method above, except an added step is using a bench grinder to shape the corner or the tip before sanding and polishing. You can barely tell it ever broke off.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brett, I confess to sheer green envy when you talk about your equipment. I pour on the deck in back. There's no possible way I could fit a well equipped shop in a 780 square foot house. All my pouring supplies are outside on shelves tucked under the eaves.

Have any of the beautiful pieces you've posted pictures of been repaired as you described?

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruth,
Thank you! I greatly appreciate the compliment.

I don't have a dedicated workshop where I can leave my stuff out. What I do have is a covered patio area of about 8' x 14' where I leave three large folding tables deployed most of the time (the balcony above keeps the area shaded). I keep all my crystals, metals, etc. in small containers that are stored in tubs or boxes that are placed in either a bookcase or a small storage bin when I'm not pouring. I have to set up and tear down each time I pour, having to take out and put back the bench grinder each time.

That said, I'm not complaining. A dedicated workshop would be nice, but I get to pour outside with the jasmine, hummingbirds and other creatures, and the weather is nice most days of the year. Love it so much! I am pretty organized because with a full-time career job, and a wife, and two teenagers, life gets awfully busy and pour time is precious.

Yes, some of the pieces I've posted pictures of have been repaired as described. The repair method sounds intimidating - and it is at first. But the learning curve is steep. I'll post a picture in the next couple of days of an orgonite pyramid I was asked to fix. It was made in India, has beautiful stones in it, but is not optimally functioning orgonite (little-to-no metal). One corner had chipped off. It appears to have been made with epoxy resin, but I did the fix with polyester resin. Turned out pretty nice.

Ruth, once again, so nice to have you back on your feet again.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You produce those pieces without a dedicated shop? You do that delicate repair work outside? If I tried that they'd be full of cat hair and detritis from the trees. The cats always have to see what's going on.

Wish I was, Brett. Walking is difficult. I can do a little more each day, but at at the cost of some discomfort. Amazing how fast muscles can atropy. Best case scenario: I won't need more surgery. I'll know in another month. After that they'll be a few months of rehab before I am anywhere near normal.

My deck is beautiful too,but has no cover, so pouring is seasonal. Giant Sequoias and Dawn Redwoods fill my small back yard. Ferns and baby tears cover the ground. It's a garden of green.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here are three pictures of the repaired pyramid. You have to look close, but you can see that the corner isn't a perfect match - there is a little line. But the corner had completely broken off and this is so much better. Doesn't take long to do, once you've done a couple.





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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 8:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You did a great job!

But as you say, I am intimidated Laughing

Recasting the tip would take an exact amount of resin, and I am not certain it would stick to the polished stones, I really piled them in.

It is possible this is the reason it broke off in the first place, the rest of the pyramid is fine, no cracks at all.

I will go with The Tao, and leave it, it would look deliberate to someone that didn't know.

I will say it again in a different way, that was an impressive job.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mike!

One of these days when I do another fix, I'll photo-document step-by-step and make a post. It's worth doing. Regarding exposed stones, I'll document how I prevent that from being an issue and post pictures or a video as well.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amazing repair. I didn't think this was possible. Thanks for proving that it is!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2016 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can I send my cracked pyramids to you for repair ?

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