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whitefire
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 8:03 am    Post subject: tumbled quartz chips or quartzite as main ingredient? Reply with quote

Hi all,
I have done a research on the forum before posting this, but I prefer to ask, a simple question that I would like a simple answer Smile

Can we use tumbled chips of quartz in orgonite, plus metal and resin ? Instead of a 'main' quartz?

or we always need a quartz that is not tumbled?

I thought about the piezoelectricity effect...

It is my understanding that tumbled stones are ok in orgonite, but I am not sure if just only tumbled chips of quartz are ok.
of if the material around the stones that are tumbled does prevent the piezoelectricity effect.
Someone told me that this material is an oil derivate.


Then another simple question, can we use tiny quartzite chips, like the type they use on acquariums as main ingredient, plus metals and resin?

Here in Italy some gifters do use it as main ingredient, instead of quartz, because it is cheaper, for towerbusters.

Thanks in advance for these clarifications.

(I thought to use the ice test to answer these, but then I realized that the fridge already does produce orgone-ice without orgonites so... Smile )
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tumbled chips are fine, as long as they're tumbled QUARTZ CRYSTAL chips. Quartzite- NO. They've made DOR accumulators. Sorry. The quartz MUST be quartz crystal (or smokey quartz, amethyst, or citrine) to reorganize the DOR.

The piezoelectric effect does not explain orgonite's activity. That was an early assumption, since invalidated. If you do a forum search using "piezoelectric" and "Sensei" you'll find some confirmation.

http://www.warriormatrix.com/post-102393.html&sid=de9387276273700223ef c3a2f9ca33d4

Sounds like you've got hold of some misinformation. Hope that clears it up for you.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thank you Ruth
I'll inform these italian gifters about quartzite
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Really hate to see resources wasted like that.

Have you ever read about the oranur experiment? Radiation (leaking from every reactor and storage facility today, but rare in Reichs time) + Reich's accumulators = widespread death. Scary shit. We make TRANSFORMERS, not accumulators, and for good reason!

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes I know about the ORANUR experiment, I've read it multiple times.

honestly I had this doubt about quarzite by years... I am scared about this friend that is using this by 10 years or more and he has done a lot of gifting. So I agree what a waste Sad
I already know he will not believe my words, or yours. So I'm thinking what can be a test or a proof about NOT using quarzite instead of quartz.
maybe a plant near a wifi router with the quartzite orgonite below ?
and then next time another plant with an orgonite with quartz in the same situation?
dunno but this guy needs this kind of proof.....
I cannot do a correct ice test here, will think of someone in my family that still doesn't have orgonite....

good to see you back Ruth Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This might possibly be a test.

I have posted on this before, that I had put some hhgs in my garden next to corn, (maize to Europeans) in the row.

When it got tall, I decided to get my hhgs. I searched and searched amongst the weeds, no orgonite.

I stopped searching and thought about it logically, the corn should be bigger where the hggs are,

and sure enough, I looked where the corn was a foot and a half taller, and there they were.

Not much range apparently, because only two or three at a place were taller.

but it should be a good test if you use one or two of his and one or two standard orgonite.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the episode

of course in this scenario a DOR source is needed to see how much well does this quarzite go with a DOR field.

so the wifi router is an idea. maybe I can use a transmitter that is powered by solar/batteries so to place it outside in a field.

I don't want to consider a radioactive source. I had problems with a sample of 98% tungsten and 2% of thorium at home while calibrating a geiger counter, but this is another story.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds like an interesting tale.

When I was about four or five years old, my dad gave me a piece of black uranium he had found not far from where I live now.

A guy where he worked had a geiger counter, for his work, and tested it.

He said it was so hot it would give you a burn if you carried it in your pocket all day.

Needles to say, that rock somehow disappeared Smile

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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've been trying ti think of a way to demonstrate the difference that would be as safe as possible.

i assume that these TBs without crystal are gifted as tactical TBs, buried or immersed, and that for personal pieces your friend does use crystals? Is that correct? Do the pieces he has in his own home have crystals?

IMO one of the more noticeable effects of orgonite is that it encourages cooperation and discourages conflict. If your friend uses the quartzite TBs in his own home, is it a peaceful home?

Lena did an accidental experiment with two bouquets of flowers Sensei gave her that might work for you with minimal risk:
She put theflowers in two separate vases in two different rooms, and put one on an orgonite charging plate. A couple of weeks later the one without the orgonite was dead, and the other, on the charging plate, was as fresh as the day he gave it to her. Link with pictures:

http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=14064&highlight=flowers

One of our other members used two strawberries for a similar experiment.

These are close up effects, so an environment free of orgonite is not required. No DOR source is needed. The experiment does not need to be done in your home, as long as the environment for both is as similar as possible.

This post may give you a few more ideas:

http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=14014&highlight=swiss+arm y+knife
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ruth wrote:

i assume that these TBs without crystal are gifted as tactical TBs, buried or immersed, and that for personal pieces your friend does use crystals? Is that correct? Do the pieces he has in his own home have crystals?


Yes Ruth, just for TBs. He does have orgonite with crystals at his home.
But I never was at his home, 500km away from here...

Will go for the flower test.
will make a big disk with quartzite and one with quartz.

at least it is a relatively fast test. a plant is more long.

then will think about a DOR source with a plant

Thanks
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