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skydragon
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2017 9:11 pm    Post subject: Measuring orgonite? Reply with quote

Hello everyone
I was wondering - is there a known way to measure orgonite's power? Like a sure way to measure if one type/design/composition is better working than another?
From what I have seen so far there is:

Measuring negative ions (which is just a side effect)
Kirlian photography (which not everyone can afford)
measuring biofields? (suggestion from an orgonite maker)
Frozen water

Wilhelm Reich was mentioning using a modified geiger meter - anyone knows/ uses that?
Is there anything else to measure orgonites's power?
Thanks.
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 12:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

start developing auric vision =)
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 22, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since Orgonite is an other-dimensional technology (etheric/scalar tech) we don't have that many instruments that have been developed yet to measure such activity. No doubt the gov't black ops have this tech and are using it to track those who make Orgonite but unless someone develops technology to detect the 'whathaveyou' emitted from them then you will have to work with what we have now.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 12:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Measuring Life Energy with a machine is tricky at best. I am favoring a Bio Feedback machine connected to a plant and then expose the plant to the orgonite.

I do believe that there needs to be a living entity in the measuring loop.

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dibspace wrote:
Since Orgonite is an other-dimensional technology (etheric/scalar tech) we don't have that many instruments that have been developed yet to measure such activity. No doubt the gov't black ops have this tech and are using it to track those who make Orgonite but unless someone develops technology to detect the 'whathaveyou' emitted from them then you will have to work with what we have now.


Well if gov ops have it - so should we.

Thank you all for replying, especially Sensei.

But any words on Reich's modified geiger meter?

For me - I do believe that we haven't discovered yet all fields, all measurment units and if there is a multi-dimensional force - it should be distinguishable on the 3d plane. Like a cube projects as a square on the 2d plane.
So we should be able to measure the square.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello, Dragon of the Sky,

I have embarked on your same research quest. And the 4 devices/methods you have listed are actually the ones I have found as well. It may be possible to increase your understanding of the underlying phenomina by using all techniques possible on the same specimen. If each of these measurings techniques could be done in a full 3D manner, where you take measurements in a 3d grid around the specimen, then that data can be displayed on a computer. By superimposing all these data sets, there is much to learn and discover.

As per measuring the true scalar waves, I do not know of anything to measure the wave in principle. These ways measure the attributes and effects of these longitudinal aether perturbations(a definition of scalar wave I find to be best), and not the purturbations themselves. But, the affects of these waves should be good enough to lend understanding of the principle.

I want to speculate on a possible way to measure the affects of scalar waves. Suppose scalar waves are just the aether waving. These waves happen instantaneously. When one of these waves makes collision with an object that may acheieve resonance with the scalar wave, it will emit electromagnetic waves. In theory, the sun's waves are scalar and only become visible light when they collide with our atmosphere. Suppose you understood what materials best 'resonant' with scalar waves, then you may start to come to a true understanding of the problem at hand.

I will take a look at possible materials or further info on the matter if you like? But if I do, you have to promise you'll share your findings!
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 27, 2017 2:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

To add clarity: I use the term resonance/resonate in ignorance of the true word for the phenomina
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 01, 2017 5:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"I do believe that there needs to be a living entity in the measuring loop. "

Sensei

Agreed. Here's a suggestion:

https://omronhealthcare.com/products/7-series-wrist-blood-pressure-mon itor-bp652n/

This is a wrist BP/ pulse rate monitor. You can be your own subject. Take your readings for a few days, until you have a baseline to compare with. YOU SHOULD HAVE NO ORGONITE ON OR AROUND YOU WHEN ESTABLISHING YOUR BASELINE.

Then find a DOR source and take a reading. Then add a piece of orgonite and take another. Try a different piece- are the readings the same or different? Try a reading with a powered piece. What do you see?

I did this by accident several years ago, when I went for a checkup and found my BP and pulse were much higher than usual. On leaving the office I discovered a newly installed antenna directly above the exam office. I gifted it.

Wonder how many people have been overdosed on their BP meds because of this?

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PostPosted: Thu Mar 02, 2017 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Anyone see the obvious problems with this technique? Anyone?

Here's three:
1- field range- if the average TB has a range of 1/4 mile, how do I bring orgonite with me to test and have it not affect the control readings?
2- residual fields- anyone who's done ice tests has probably noticed that when you remove orgonite from your freezer and do another ice test the orgone field still shows up?
3- calebrating the readings

Possible answers:
1- use several layers of metal containers
2- wait a few weeks after removing orgonite before starting the tests
3- take a whole lot of readings, look for the patterns

Obvious problem is that everyone I know who has added orgonite to their lives is very reluctant to remove it, even temporarily. Maybe someone who's new would be the best control?

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PostPosted: Sun Mar 05, 2017 12:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

years ago I tried a biofeedback using a plant but I encountered various problems. mostly how to attach the electrodes to leafs. Then I solved it with a conductive glue. Then I realized I needed a bigger plant with bigger leafs so I did give up.
the IBM engineer, Vogel, that was famous for biofeedback plants was using a kind of species with very big leafs.

I think is time to search for the right plant... Smile
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