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Ann
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Does Orgonite have its own CONSCIOUSNESS? Reply with quote

Here is a subject very close to my heart and I'd be interested to hear your thoughts on this.

For myself, I do believe there is consciousness in the orgonite devices I have around me. I have heard suggestions of placement, for instance. Also, I have heard soothing sounds and vibrations and on occasions when I've been upset and hold a piece of orgonite close I feel a warm pulsing and soothing tone.

I have one special little piece that a friend made for me. It is shaped like a six pointed star and comes to a rounded point on top. Just a small device, but I have seen it levitate when it thinks I'm not looking!

Let's hear it from the rest of you Warriors--whaddya think about this??

Peace, Ann



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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great topic. When I first started acquiring a few orgonite pieces to put around the house, I didn't have enough to have Hhgs around me wherever I was spending time. So I would take them with me if I was spending a lot of time in one particular place.

The Hhg I had next to the bed at night, would get moved to the computer desk during the day, to be near me.

Then at night, I'd put it back next to the bed. I only did that because it felt good to always have them around me.

But soon I started to notice that they didn't "like" to be moved around a lot Smile. The TB's "want" to stay where they are and not be "interrupted" in their work. And the HHgs have sort of found places that they each want to stay put.

So instead of my carrying them around to suit my needs, I let them decide where their best hangout is, and that feels best to me too.

So yeah, I agree Smile

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you're seeing the actions and hearing the voices of sylphs and other helpful beings who happen to be drawn to orgonite?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Ann et al.

Well, according to me it does.

I feel (in the light of highly dodgy circumstantial evidence, no placebo double blind trial here!) that it has both an energy (i.e. the ability to do 'work' if we use the 'classical' description, converting DOR to POR for example) and a 'presence' or consciousness if you will, which acts as a catalyst for other 'good things' to occur, over and above the energy effect. I am not wedded to this theory, nor do I expect others to agree, these are just my impressions.

The other day, I was sending a Bach Flower Remedy to a mate of mine in Northern Queensland when this little TB said "send me too". Since I was not used to orgonite (or anything other than humans for that matter) talking to me, I ignored it. Remember, I have a heavy science background which is hard to shake. So it said "send me too" again, just as politely, but LOUDER. So I did and my friend is cockahoop with the stuff, making it for the district, no less.

Now, it could be of course that the kangaroos are finally loose in my top paddock, but failing that, I can only conclude that orgonite exhibits a consciousness, for me anyway.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm with Karen on this Ann: excellent topic!

Trouble is, the concept of consciousness is somewhat vague, at least to me. Just looked it up in the Oxford Unabridged, and what seemed most appropriate was: The state or faculty of being conscious, as a condition and concomitant of all thought, feeling, and volition. And in the usage section is included an 1866 quote by Huxley: But what consciousness is, we know not; and how it is that anything so remarkable as a state of consconsciousness comes about as the result of irritating nervous tissue, is just as unaccountable as the appearance of the Djin when Aladdin rubbed his lamp, or as any other ultimate fact of nature.

So it is a condition of thought, feeling and volition... But how do we know when an inanimate object thinks, feels, or wills?

Ann reports sounds, vibrations, and movement. Karen describes movement and will. Miss P writes of energy, "presence", and speech.

I'm assuming these sounds were physically audible Ann. Was it the same with the speech Miss P?

I've not seen orgonite move or heard it speak aloud. But I can vouch that it does have a "presence", that this "presence" sometimes has qi connected with it that is distinct from the qi involved in the work of the orgonite, and that the "presence" can and does communicate on some level: if not directly to the human consciousness, then to his spirit. And the orgonite is individual: the "presence" of no piece is identical to that of another.

But where specifically does this consciousness lie? A quartz crystal by itself can show this sort of consciousness. So may it not be that the consciousness of a piece of orgonite be that of the crystal or crystals contained in it?

The_Reverend writes,"Maybe you're seeing the actions and hearing the voices of sylphs and other helpful beings who happen to be drawn to orgonite?" It is certainly true that other entities are drawn to orgonite, especially to CBs: devas and other elementals as well as sylphs, though it is my observation that sylphs seem to keep their distance up in the air.

But the elementals which do get close up, and there is often one very close to where the transmutation of the qi takes place, have a strong consciousness too. And this consciousness could easily be mistaken for the consciousness of the orgonite.

It is a common story in China for a person or entity to travel to and abide by a location containing good qi, for the purpose of rapid self-cultivation: such self-cultivation being more rapid for the presence of the good qi. For example, near the Shao-Lin temple in Henan Province is a small cave where the great Buddhist monk Da Mo supposedly sat in self-cultivation for more than three years continuously. The cave is situate about two-thirds up a small mountain behind the temple, as I recall. There is a strong current of quite positive qi which comes from above in the sky directly down into the cave, right at the spot where he is said have done his quiet sitting. There is another such place in an old monastery precariously built into a hillside on Mount Heng (Hengshan) in northern China. The building is supported by poles on the downhill side, and legend has it that such a building has been there for at least two millennia.

I have seen pieces of jade in China which carry very strong and pleasant positive qi, and to which entities of a quite high and respectable nature have been attracted. Near the jade is a quite positive and noticable presence, but the presence is not of the jade, rather of the entity associated.

Right now in front of me sits one of cbswork's gemstone HHGs, with a quite merry and positive consciousness attached. But it seems to be more connected with the gem stone than anything else. That the stone is set in orgonite seems to have added to the pleasure felt by the stone entity.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Laozu for your most excellent elucidation of this subject.
As to your question of whether the sound emitted by the Orgonite creation was audible: it certainly is audible to me, but my husband looks askance
at me when I ask him if he hears the orgonite speaking in any manner.
So, this may be an altogether personal perception.

As to the Elementals being involved, what I usually hear from them is of a
completely different magnitude. What I mean to say is, I find them to be outside in my flower gardens and in the trees and in the streams, but not in the Orgonite per se.

I do think you've hit that nail on the head though when you bring in the crystals! I've used some very special crystals in my Orgonite creations
and it definitely seems to be that the Orgonite enhances the natural abilities of the crystals to be great communicators.

Thank you for your contribution. Pilamaya.

Peace, Ann


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 1:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the kind words Ann: all the better reason for a culpa mea.

I should not have mentiioned the devas and elementals so definitely. I can't see them, and only know their work by hearsay. I asked Carol Croft and her sister-in-law Melody what they were when first I noticed them, and that was how those two identified the entities. I have no reason to doubt what they said, but I should be candid.

What I can say from observation however, is that the entities I represented to be devas are quite tall and slender, between 20 and 40 feet hight, spritely, and of a high level. The ones I represented to be elementals associated with the working of the CBs, are much smaller, do not move about so much, and rather than just being attracted to the CBs for the joy and POR, they seem intimately to be connected with the working of the CBs, perhaps even directing them. During different phases of the operation of the CBs they can exude joy, and at others pain (just as people do in their work).
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 5:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMHO, the orgonite creates the positive energy. It takes some time for that energy to accumulate. When the energy reaches a POSITIVE saturation point all kinds of interesting things start to happen. We're all different and our ability to precieve is different and is probably based on physical and spiritual health as well as natural abilities. I don't know. I'm just speculating from personal experience and from what I have been reading for the past 7 months.

I'm still a noob......but even in my novice state I find this a very interesting thread and hope more Warriors place their input here.

Thanks Ann.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"But soon I started to notice that they didn't "like" to be moved around a lot . The TB's "want" to stay where they are and not be "interrupted" in their work. And the HHgs have sort of found places that they each want to stay put.

I had the same exact experience with my HHG in my living room. About a month ago I was about to pick up my HHG and take it with me on a road trip, but when I touched it to pick it up it didn't feel right. I could almost hear it telling me to leave it in place, so I did.

I also had a similar experience with a TB on the dashboard of my car. I had just made a new batch of TBs that were a bit on the artsy side and I thought it would be cool to replace the ugly one on my dash with a new pretty one. I decided to give the old one to a friend and when I handed it to her I could almost hear it saying "no, I want to stay on the dashboard!" It literally zapped her hand and she handed it back to me saying "I think this device is meant to be your's!" So, I put it back on teh dash and gaver her the pretty one! hehe

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 20, 2005 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had a DB gifting HHg in my car, on the hump near my feet, for many moons.

The car is very old (87) and needs is way overdue for a tune up, among other things, but has been running well all winter. Actually better than last winter.

So I gift the HHg one day, but replace it with a nicer DB HHg.

Then I stop at a friends healing clinic. I bring the HHg in to share with her and see how she likes it. Duh! I tried to take it off the floor and it said clearly (telepathically or in my mind) "I want to stay here". So I said out loud, this little baby wants to stay here. And my second friend who is WIDE open says, "I knew that already" (bit of a show off).

So I drive home, and halfway home my car is driving like crud. I can barely accelerate over 30, and am afraid it might stall. I putter into the driveway, play with the spark plug wires and distributor cap, try it again, same thing. Frustrated a bit, because I am very poor $$, I prepare to call my mechanic friend. But don't. I sleep on it. Go to my car the next morning.

A ha! Intuition leaps into the fray, and I put my last 2 tbs where the hhg used to be. Start her up. Drive her out. Duh! Been running perfect since.

Orgone wonders never cease.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 4:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an email that fits in with the topic. Stacie and I were emailing back and forth about the chembuster she made for me. I was noticing a certain energy that was "clashing" with me when I got the chembuster. Here's the email.

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Well that was interesting ! Yeah you called it.

We drove away from the complex to figure out the situation and towards the end of the day got the answer. Apparently "Orgy" was feeling the clash of energies... Cause I was so used to just getting rid of chemtrails by myself.

We think it fits into a bigger picture. I'm planning on leaving here and it makes sense to leave a chembuster to take care of the action.

So what I'm doing is leaving it up to "Orgy". It is fascinating working with the "small voice", intuition (which the reptiles try and discount in this system). It is very small and sometimes hard to hear.

Also I felt a distinct personality from "Orgy". I came up with the idea that when something is 'created", (like a chembuster) its more so just creating a "container" for orgone beings from other dimensions. There is no such thing as "creation". That is a reptile concept to keep Beings enslaved. It is their way to weaken. If a an infinite Being can be led to believe he's been created, well then....... There is just never ending energy that moves around. So now I am going to back down and let him do his thing. There will be a period of chemtrails cause I think it takes a while for him to "aclimate".

Interesting times we live in.....

-M

Oh and when we came back there were 3 birds jumping and playing around in the courtyard and on the roof.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2005 11:52 pm    Post subject: re Reply with quote

yeah, really interesting times..

good topic..

Consciousness is the energy itself,,, it can have two sides but in the middle there is always consciousness itself... Doing what its will..

I feel that the reason why orgonite devices don?t want to move too much or change their usual place is because they when set on their place ground , attach, connect their potential to create energy to the energetical consensus of its environment,, and in environment there are many things that affect the fact how the energy creating device in use of consciousness itself can relate to its environment.... ..... .... as it is said that "grounding" of TB may take some time... its natural... everything has its time and also its place.
We humans always don?t see what are important for the orgonite device itself and natures spirit that "lives" in it. So they connect us trough our subconscious,, our connection to the source of all consciousness that makes us all one.. we hear words that we know,, in our own language that we can understand,, the natures spirits (i may mean with this different elementals and devas) ,,, that live in state of unity with the harmonical source of all nature,, they don?t have form but they use the form of our "mental matter",, possibly and actually always i think, from the collective mind of the planet... this is really interesting topic... and summer is coming,,, I?m gonna really get to know nature this summer... for it is all love..



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I think Orgonite does not have "its own" consciousness, but we as parts of this Whole,, share the same consciousness..... this has something to do with boosting energies to balance with air elementals, sylphs and also with all other sort of spiritual entities that inhabit this planet with us... and also the cosmic ones,,, you?d,, and we would all, be amazed to really know how many sorts of different lifeforms from who knows how far from space are actually working with us and all people who are working with orgonite and those who are simply working with the great spirit in order to manage things to better directions now at this time of great changes... We are never alone,, so the words that you might hear when you are about to move well grounded orgone-device, they might be from the consciousness that inhabits and works with the device or your guides of long term contract or some others who have smaller part in working with you in this life... the only connecting thing is that We al share the same consciousness, and whatever it is that communicates with us, the message always comes trough our own mind,, in the form that the spirit wants to take. Towards the diversity of nature and how Spirit the Energy&Consciousness permeates it all, I feel great respect..
It is great to be here now and "know" you people,, who have this kind of will to work with the nature to balance the energies of the nature..

I?d say We are working in connection with the Mind of God...
and are establishing the framework of multidimensional grid of energetical(;high consciousness) between the worlds in unity and this world that for quite long time ago was sort of dissipated from unity to this dimension and time as we know it begun... We are approaching the stage in our time when unity starts to act for itself in more and more intelligent manner,, you possibly will be getting much deeper connection with what you are working with orgone.... It is "extra energy" that orgone is... of course it works with some consciousness directing it... And that?s the best thing in everything,,, when it is conscious, you can always connect with it and have good time ,,, ,, ,,, our mind is like a radio,, you can tune it to different frequency if you don?t have things in vanity blocking the view... this is how I see orgonite work; we need to use it to open up channels of energy in grid of energy to connect the different levels of our existence on energetical level and thus let the holiness of the whole deal to cleanse what is blocking the view,,,, and when we are grounding death towers and opposing the system (of the beast), we are doing it on a mass scale... many people are doing "lightwork" and it affects and helps the spiritual world to work upon our world,, but this,, orgone,, huh...

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Very Happy Shocked Very Happy

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update to my CB doing its work, even though its all normal, i?m sort of excited to see it,,, I have seen many sylphs in the sky today,, really cool... they glow sort of orange light.. so wonderful.
And there are still some places , some towers quite near this town,, and I see quite clearly how the dark grey cloudformation that has before CB been blocking Suns light at every evening in the horizon for many months... as I wrote in my other post, it colds the weather quite much if sun?s blocked.... Now the grey clouds float only above the military-area and near the towers far away in the horizon that have not yet been gifted and they are not nearly as thick as before,, there is now only a little of this sort of "cloudmatter" and it?s spread in the horizon and sun clearly shines trough it because most of towers are already gifted.
I haven?t read about this sort of weather control with towers and something up there that they control this , but this is how I have concluded and now noticed in my way what has happened due lots of orgone in environment.

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bye for now,,, peace!
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The first night I placed orgone under my bed I got a vision and the words on the screen of my mind were "Crystal King xxx".

I do feel like the orgone energy has a personality and my vision confirms this for me to a greater extent.
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