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Draco
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 14, 2009 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

paradigm wrote:
Andrea

Sorry if I ramble but here it goes.

Very insightful and informative. The GWB worship Satan

John



proof right here and now Evil or Very Mad and what gwb means


believe me crowley for me and others (whom i know) is just a heretic Christian priest for us

Anton Levay is very strange
1 atheistic satanism means not believing that Satan exists as an entity spirit you name it
2 yes there are many kinds of satanism its like pagans wicca and neopaganism and others


and its getting late here
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is quite possible the following video fits nicely here Cool

Two comments:

1) This girl asserts that orgonite is new age and hardly scientific...

2) She qualifies her (aesthetic) pyramid as orgonite.

I double beg to differ!


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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:16 pm    Post subject: Experience with IET Reply with quote

I did the first iniation for the IET (Intergrated Energy Therapy). It was wonderful and the first physical proof that spirit exists for me. I was filled with a strong loving energy and was "high" for 3 hours. My teacher is one of the most loving persons you would ever want to meet. The experience lead to me meeting someone who did a healing session for my son which cured him of facial paralysis. Both my teacher and the healer said they are just channels for the energy from God and his angels and take no credit for healings. I would be careful in trashing energy work. I have found it is compatible with orgonite gifting.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SUEMI-wondeful well written well thought out post!!

what a talent you have!
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And overlying all of this is the quickening we are feeling as the next big bridge is in sight - 2012 or whatever you want to call it. It is happening as we speak. Piercing through to higher levels is not always sweetness and light. There will be some strains at times. Patience might be the most handy virtue in this regard.
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am blessed to be a channel for healing work and have always been so - there are levels of healing energy and the best and ultimate one is knowing you are with the universe and need no ritual, indoctrination, lower gods or goddesses, cards, etc.
orgonite is detoxing me in many areas and, of course, that makes my "self" purer and a better conduit. when you belive your cards over your own instincts or open yourself wide to someone elde probimg around inside you, please beware! do not become limited in your actions and reactions by first paying homage to any saints rituals groups etc. You need not do so.

i do play around with 'parlor trick' stuff and do need to reign that in-but as good as reiki seems to be it is on a lower healing level than what we can do ourselves....
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 10, 2012 8:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Reiki & New Age Reply with quote

suemi wrote:

I burnt my tarot cards because I don´t want to give power for the Waite or Crowley designs and their symbolisms to take care of my life by using the tarot. What good I´d have giving every aspect of my life to symbols I know nothing about their true meanings?


Don't know much bout energyy, don't know much about Reiiiki, don't know much bout Newagyy Smile but I can share some thoughts, mediately, on symbolism...

What is a symbol? There are a good few who revel in the word with a knowing air, and who make it a speciality of theirs or even consider themselves to be a quasi occult elite.

The root of the word is strong, it is the same as in the word symbiosis, sympathetic, etc. All right, let's cut the chase, a symbol is something that unites the visible and the invisible. Well I think it's time we said something about it that is not solely idiotic. It is not easy to pinpoint what a symbol is. As we practically only have the root to move forward with, it is tempting to seek its inverse or contrary. Now the contrary of “sym” is “dia”, as in dialysis. Now pay attention, this is where it gets amusing, watch closely => http://beingandquirkiness.blogspot.com.es/2009/07/symbolism.html
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:37 pm    Post subject: attachment in Reiki ? Reply with quote

Started Reiki in 1984. The part that is interesting is; I did second degree twice, by different Reiki Masters and different methods, symbols a hair different etc, both were 2 day initiations. Around $ 500 each. One master had us put things in peoples heads. Positive affirmations. "The Universe loves me unconditionally", "I am worthy of love" etc. I always had an issue with that. Also you cannot simply give / send Reiki to a person without their permission, or it will come back to hunt you. I don't think I read that here, but I might have missed that. So to hear that people believe that there are certain attachments, I have to agree, that could certainly be the case.
I noticed big ego differences in the Masters that initiated me as well, I don't care about the lineage and if it is direct or not, its suppose to benefit mankind not ego.

I have read about initiation over the mail and watered down prices like $ 75.
Greed goes everywhere.

Also there should be ample time between Reiki initiations to work out a persons own problems. Being initiated does not make one a Master in my brain. I have been initiated 3rd degree, but it does not do it for me. So Reiki became less important for me during the last 15 years. I simply found other things, like Karate, Mantak Chia, Silva Mind Control, Ho'oponopono, Tony Robins, Placebo effect, all are about intent.

I am glad that if you find it attacks you, burn it, clean it up, send it back, fill its space it leaves with white light.

Use what works for you and let go what does not longer serve you. Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry for reviving this thread but...
After studying the benefits of reiki for some time and balancing the "good" stories and the "bad" stories about it, I have left are some pure facts, sometimes facts speak more then a hundred of words.
- Mikao Usui was Buddhist monk but also a Shungeja. Their belief is that in genre every entity that can grant /has powers is a god (Kami sama ). Light or dark, power means godhood, survival of the fittest was the norm in the Japanese tradition and people went to huge lengths for power.
-Mikao Usui died of a heart attack at the age 61, as a Buddhist monk that didn't eat meat and lived in a non toxic area, that's pretty unusual. People from Okinawa sometimes live as long as 110 even nowadays. I also know that heart diseases are related to the heart chakra.
-Mikao's disciple (or so called disciple) sold Reiki in the West with a good story. Something veritable, pure and powerful would really need a good story ? Would something as Reiki be something to be given easily to everyone or sold for a few bucks ?
-Reiki channels energy from somewhere, some say cosmic energy, some say from all around us, I don't know or didn't met anyone who knows exactly ( if you know better please explain to me), all I know is that everything has a price in the natural state of the universe. Who's paying it ? The healer or the healed ?
-In the last years the true reiki heritage is probably lost between so many others lines of reiki and we know that most of the new age movements are all about power and control. Something coming from their hands can not be different, because we know a tree by his fruit.

Please discuss.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 06, 2013 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The best thing to me anyway about orgonite is that it does not require or even inspire ritual or "practice.". Ever notice that? The energy is so simple and fundamental that it just is. No further elaboration or application needed other than to move it out into the world and pass it around. There is less voodoo and transactional BS about orgone energy than any other modality I know about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think that's why Usui got good results, because of his lifestyle/religious practice...this applies to any energy worker...
I've met all kinda of reiki master/teachers, and don't want a treatment/exchange from them because their energy feels dirty (relative) you can just tell they don't do any meditation etc to purify themselves and think reiki will take care of all that for them, but that's reverse thinking/incorrect...I think what turns people on to reiki is that is "easy" to learn/do, which has it's pros & cons
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 07, 2013 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Getting a treatment by someone without awareness can give you more than just that energy and it can take lots of work to get it removed... I have seen it too many times...

It can get even worse if their egos are stuck in them wanting to be great healers cause then something that makes them feel really good for a while may step in... and give some extra bonuses... like energy lines going somewhere...

What happens is that your free will gets violated... you allow the touch thinking that it's in your highest good but days, weeks, months later (or maybe never...) realize that something else happened...

I tend to compare reiki to alcohol... may feel like great fun initially but the hangover may not be worth it Wink

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lena wrote:
Getting a treatment by someone without awareness can give you more than just that energy and it can take lots of work to get it removed... I have seen it too many times...

It can get even worse if their egos are stuck in them wanting to be great healers cause then something that makes them feel really good for a while may step in... and give some extra bonuses... like energy lines going somewhere...

What happens is that your free will gets violated... you allow the touch thinking that it's in your highest good but days, weeks, months later (or maybe never...) realize that something else happened...

I tend to compare reiki to alcohol... may feel like great fun initially but the hangover may not be worth it Wink

Lena


This is the most solid advice for anyone who is starting to look around into alternative ways to heal. Reiki is extremely questionable. Especially after discovering one day licenses were being given out at a local university. (A real drinkaversity I must say.) With this said superstitions are everywhere. Many closed off people can find the best help from a shamanic energy worker like someone trained at the Four Winds school in Utah. You must be the ultimate judge of the teacher. Also remember an energetic shift, that many people miss, happened in 1776. It's okay to be an individual ! With this said a nonjudgemental meditation group (with a teacher (even skype)) such as waking down in mutuality can be very effective in honing awareness down into the body. Also mentors are always free ! With this said orgonite already accelerates processes so for now, pouring is best!
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 4:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Real energy work is there to help you help yourself. Take a SP with the intent to only allow healing energies if you must. To me its about the way a good energy worker or teacher "holds" you.
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 08, 2013 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the most valuable thing about orgonite energy is that it is just so relentlessly upbeat that a lot of the problems of the personality look rather foolish and of no consequence in its presence. It takes peoples minds off their "problems" which is the same thing as taking those problems away. It is what I call a "growing up" energy. It overrides the childish residues we all contain in ourselves. It teaches whiners to quit whining - by example. No lectures - just being. As H.D. Thoreau so beautifully said, "Being is the great explainer."
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