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Marmin74



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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 5:37 pm    Post subject: Increase in DOR Reply with quote

Hi, is it possible that when placing a fairly small orgonite device in an ungifted area will initially increase DOR , near the device, because it will attract/collect any DOR in the area before transforming and the device can't keep up with the transforming process?
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's a good question - and also what of ungifted areas near to gifted ones, say perhaps the towers are increased in power in these areas for example. I take the line of thought that if I start gifting an area then that brings a responsibility to ensure it is done right. It's a tough call sometimes as it is impossible to do it all at once but by being thorough and strategic one can minimize these possibilities. I have noticed that more serious crimes seem to occur in non-gifted areas locally to me - could be a coincidence as these are some of the roughest areas in town, however I have seen good things happening in other downtrodden areas that have been gifted if only partially.

I do question myself at times when gifting in areas away from my own turf when I may only be able to partially finish the job or have a minimal amount of TBs. Studying gifting reports and judging the existing energy of a place helps, if a place is already known to have been gifted then adding more to the mix will just be a pleasant boost to an area rather than the start of potentially intense energy exchange.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 25, 2010 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question. Allow me to complicate. Since DOR is attracted to metal, wouldn't any area with metal in it have DOR? You've got fences, all kinds of poles, towers, autos, buildings, body peircings, etc...... Perhaps any size of orgonite is better than none.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 6:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

DOR is drawn in by the resin actually. the metal reflects it.
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 27, 2010 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is where induction orgonite comes into play. APPARENTLY, by placing the induction side down on any metal structure........ will be turned into a POR anntenae !!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 28, 2010 5:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

monsoon gecko wrote:
This is where induction orgonite comes into play. APPARENTLY, by placing the induction side down on any metal structure........ will be turned into a POR anntenae !!


what's the induction side? for as much as I know (which I don't claim to be much), Orgonite pieces don't have polar sides to them. They're just singularly operating masses.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G'day Glacomo, Regarding induction tb's , also known as aegis tb's.....go to search, type in ,,aegis tb's....scroll down to heading....Aegis Effect Tb's by Kimball Kinnison. Excellent info and diagrams....I've made afew of these and they work great !
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 12:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Giacomo you may be right. Dor is drawn to the organic. But so is OR. My assertion was simply logic; that living beings attract lfe-force (bioenergy). Reich himself stated that orgone is attracted to concentrations of itself. So, we grow our understanding together. Just one question. How in the world does an accumulator work if the metal wrapping repels orgone?
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 6:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi guys. It's my understanding that it's the metal that attracts DOR as well as reflecting within the matrix. The pipes on a CB draw in the DOR, gets converted to POR by the Matrix and is pushed back out though the pipes to the atmosphere and general area. Been researching for a while now, can't remember the source of info. Perhaps someone can clarify.....Sensei ? Thanks
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2010 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ur all right, kinda. lol. Organic substance attracts and HOLDS OR, whereas Inorganic also attracts OR but REPELS instead. thats the basis for an accumulator, for the device simply accumulates OR(unless were talking fanices here), putting it through a 'worked' matrix(crystal, kyanite, etc.) restructuring it(very similar to rescructuring water) is what produces the POR.

so marmin-yes if you place an accumulator in an area dominated by DOR, it will certainly draw that DOR initially, it would make sense that after a little time of restructuring that DOR into POR the effect will where off, and POR will dominate.

Monsoon- if by matrix ur including the DT crystals within the pipe, that transmutes DOR to POR, right on

Bruce- by metal wrapping are you referring to crystal wrapping? or simply metal within the matrix.

pretty sure that the accumulators dont descriminate Very Happy
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

@ Orgonaut-- I mean an accumulator is made of alternating wraps or layers of metal and organic.
And.... do you mean that the crystals transmute the energy? Not the case. They structure and color the energy. Orgonite willl work without any crystal at all. It is just weaker.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orgonaut wrote:

so marmin-yes if you place an accumulator in an area dominated by DOR, it will certainly draw that DOR initially, it would make sense that after a little time of restructuring that DOR into POR the effect will where off, and POR will dominate.
This is indeed what I seemed to notice and it seems quite logical to me; so if one starts to 'clean' an ungifted environment one maybe should not sit very close to the orgonite device (as I did) until all the DOR is transformed. This also might explain some people complaining things get worse initially. It might, i'm not sure.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 03, 2010 10:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This phenomenon also might explain James DeMeo's claim that Croft cloudbusters damage the environment, a claim which is completely false according to my first-hand observations. I have had a CB for at least three years now and have noticed no such changes. The device is fully functional. I knew that as soon as I put the pipes on.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 04, 2010 9:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bruce-I didnt at all mean that crystals produce orgone, the Structuring your talking about, and that i referred to is the exact idea behind the crystals that i meant to infer. as for the organic/inorganic matrix, I like to think of that as a 'energy conditioner/filter' or 'energy scrubber/charger'. Energy, Like water it seems, can filtered very well, but unless its stuctured its not fully absorbed by the body. thats the analogy ive been using to explain to my friends...

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 06, 2010 11:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with your explanation. Words are sometimes tricky things to interpret.
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