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LordZoma
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:05 am    Post subject: Crushing Crystals Reply with quote

So, I spent the day organizing the garage and beginning the initial setup of a permanent orgonite workstation. I'm setting up tables, book shelves, and I'm going to start gathering together all the materials I need.

When I got to one stage: apothecary jars for crystals and crushed crystals...

I realized that I need a better method of crushing crystals into powder.

Before I was using ziplock bags and a hammer but it was wasteful.

I did some searches online and I can't find a little rock crusher anywhere.

Can anyone suggest to me a device i can get or a method for crushing crystals?

Sometimes I might want a superfine powder but ultimately I just want to be able to take tumbled stones and turn them into a pile of tiny chips.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 3:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Here is what I use for crushing crystals:





Hard work to do in larger quantities but this tool does the job quite well. Using sieves in different sizes will help you if you want to make it very fine, like powder.

I might have an extra one to spare if you're interested... send me a PM.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had seek a lot on that matter over internet.

Stone Crusher are good for big chunk. Ebay got a mechanical crusher (some chambers with a piston to hit with a big hammer) - little thumb stone crusher.

For fine powder, seek ball mills. (it take 1/2 inch and less stone and stainless steel balls - while the machine rolled, the balls will crushed the chip into powder)

I had thought to buy a Tumbler with the idea to take the powder from the tumbling... no luck, tumbler will get the powder mix with the abrasive paper.


So, hammer on big chunk. Take small chunk and put in ball mills.

Actually, I do my powder with small chunk (chip size) in a mortar.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 8:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spent another few hours working on the garage today. The place is like a nightmare. Over the next few day's I'm going to take everything out of it, then organize it as I put it back in.

Miraculously I am annexing an entire wall to make my orgonite station. I have a few bookshelves and I'm going to set up a couple tables. I'm buying a bunch of new molds and apothecary jars for collecting stuff.

Once I get the whole ball rolling I'll be able to pump out HHGs to make my costs back then give an HHG to all of my friends and my family. Then I'll be able to start working on the stuff I want to work on, like terrariums, orgonite aquarium terrariums, and orgonite centerpieces.

One day I'll have a whirl at making CB's but not until I have a sensei cb of my own. All in due time!

I'm excited because I am finally going to have a set amount of cash that I can use to hoard materials, and I'm preparing for that by creating my own permanent orgonite work space. I've always felt anxious when pouring because I was always sloppy in a temporary area and that bothered me.

I am just excited and thought I would share my little update in my latest thread. Next week I'm gonna hoard up on supplies to stock the workstation /wall that will hopefully be done by then.

Huzzah!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 27, 2010 12:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That sounds great! You might scrap around for an old vacuum cleaner to draw the fumes out. I have an old hair dryer from way back that accommodates a vacuum cleaner hose, the hose fits an Israeli gas mask like it all came in a box. I got the mask for 20 bucks back before 9/11. Got to watch out for the fumes, man!

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 30, 2010 8:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

what is the benefit in crushing crystals....unless they are to nano-crystal size?
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can tell you what's harmful about it. Taking living things then traumatizing them by smashing them against their will, then putting the pieces with this traumatized energy into an orgonite piece to amplify it. It's kind of like treating a cow like shit by giving it a life of degradation, humiliation and pain then chopping it up and eating it's meat. Yay! Now that's some high frequency energy!

If you can't tell if a crystal wants to be smashed or not, then you're about as qualified to smash them as a deaf-blind person who goes around killing indiscriminately because nobody complains, is qualified to be a surgeon.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloka wrote:
what is the benefit in crushing crystals....unless they are to nano-crystal size?


I crush the crystals to make pretty layers in the tips of HHGs. I use the chips there. The powder I sprinkly in if I'm using powdered metal, or on the bottoms of pieces if it'll show up in the clear layer to look cool.

Here's a piece I made.



If you look at the tip, there's crushed quartz, and some other crushed stones. I'm going to try to coordinate the color of the crushed crystals with the pearl ex pigment colors I put in the pieces.

As for Lurkerguy's comment, I actually thank my crystals before I crush them.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 6:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lurkerguy wrote:
I can tell you what's harmful about it. Taking living things then traumatizing them by smashing them against their will, then putting the pieces with this traumatized energy into an orgonite piece to amplify it. It's kind of like treating a cow like shit by giving it a life of degradation, humiliation and pain then chopping it up and eating it's meat. Yay! Now that's some high frequency energy!

If you can't tell if a crystal wants to be smashed or not, then you're about as qualified to smash them as a deaf-blind person who goes around killing indiscriminately because nobody complains, is qualified to be a surgeon.


Agreed: That's why it's important to ask forgiveness AND permission if smashing beautiful cystals into pieces is necessary. Personally, I'd keep them in their original forms.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"If necessary" is the operative phrase there and I don't think crushing them for looks is a good reason to do so LordZoma. You could at least be doing this for the energetic properties of the smaller pieces. Honestly smashing crystals for decoration is an EXTREMELY ignorant thing to do (as if crushing them without permission wasn't bad enough- and "Sorry guys.... SMASH!" is only slightly better.) .

!! ---You could just be using crushed glass if you want to decorate.----!!

What do you think the Nano-Lemurian idea is about? The nano pieces of quartz are clearly not for decoration. Pieces don't have to be nano size to get the effect of smaller pieces- just like you don't need a superconductor to experience and use electricity. People crush crystals to get more surface area and an energetic effect. Also to get the quartz all throughout the resin metal matrix.

Edit- oops I thought the last post said "If necessary" and pik said "Is necessary". Oh well....
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 5:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies from everyone so far!

I still don't understand a reason for crushing except for decorative use.....I was wondering if there is a specific energetic reason.

Creating the nano-sized particles of crystal for specific use with nano-metals has been explained well allready and makes sense to me. They would have to be at the same 'scale' as the metals or there would be energetic discordance. I have been interested in nano-technology for years, and my thoughts on orgonite have always been that it would one day be incorporated into a structure that is organised on a nano-scale.....and it was really cool to see it happening in a well thought out, tried and tested way that showed positive results.

As for the issue of harm to crystals.......simply digging them up from the ground can be seen in a negative way, or breaking single points from a matrix......even the pigments we use have been taken from the earth in ways which aren't ideal....to say the least. Which is why I always cleanse/heal all my materials before use. If only this world was full of people who cared for and respected each other as much as we care about crystals!

We ourselves have many crystals within us....Apatite is one of the important minerals in the human body:

And calcite micro-crystals on the pineal gland:


which makes me ponder.....would the scale of a crystal create an alteration in the energy it emits in a way that would create a a sympathetic resonance with other crystals of the same scale? (please excuse my unscientifically accurate language...)
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 01, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I found some interesting posts on a past thread. I hope nobody minds me reposting them like this.....they have helped me make sense of the topic.




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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:26 pm
Post subject: smashing crystals to use finer metal particles in orgonite?

Small crystals are pressed by the resin when cured better than big crystals.
Their surface is much smaller so it is easier to be pressed by the cured resin and produce piezoelectric voltages.
Also the surface of the metal powder is times larger than the non powder metals surface.
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:55 pm
Post subject: smashing crystals to use finer metal particles in orgonite?

I was very hesitant to crush crystals myself. I have done so though and used crushed crystal in pendants and small pieces. It seems you still get the intended results from the orgonite albeit possibly a bit diminished. I have since ordered some Herkimer Diamonds from Sensei and no longer have to crush quartz for pendants. I will also be ordering some of those small Chinese Quartzs for TB's and such to get away from breaking crystals all together.
I think the general consensus though is that using crushed quartz does work. As far as aluminum powder it works great. Cheers
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2009 10:47 pm
Post subject: smashing crystals to use finer metal particles in orgonite?

Part of me feels like once the matrix has set, orgonite becomes one; a gestalt. Still, though, the crystals themselves started off as one, and have to be broken down.

Call it metamorphosis ; call it death and re-birth; call it the process...

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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:11 am
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Having done this many times I see it as functional and it produces very warm and smooth feeling orgonite when used with fine metals.

I say a thankful thoughtform to them as they are broken., and they come back together into a new creation and offer so much more as a result......

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spray crushed crystals with Rescue Remedy !
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

good idea.....but I guzzled the last drop the other day, lol.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

......ok guys..

..just an idea for you....One of the reason's I shared about how to make BIONIC or BIONISED SAND & BIO-NITE
was to replace the quartz /crushed crystal in the orgonite matrix. (it's a different energy though non-less powerful)

Simply boil & freeze beach sand three times. Then add instead of crushed quartz etc, Viola!

here's the thread on it if interested in trying something different...

http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=6995

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