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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensei wrote:
Here is a Slim Spurling type, twisted copper coil laying on the plate.



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Thank you! Smile I have 3 of these rings and when you place silver or gold in the centre... WOW!!!!
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread I wrote a while ago April 2009 contains some info which may explain some of this metal stuff...

http://projectavalon.net/forum/showthread.php?t=13363

I saw this guy Stephane Cardinaux this last weekend at the Stars and Stones event in Bury I posted last week… fascinating event , I highly recommend it to people on here where people like us meet to try and 'work it out'….

"here Stephan adds more detail to his measurement experience:"Variations of the (body's aura) vital field in the presence of a metal patch (10cm /10cm) - placed in front of the breast - Metals are placed in the lessening order- Gold 160 %, Silver 140 %, Copper 130 %, Zink 113 %, Titanium 110 %, ----Normal vital field 100 %, Nickel 79 %, Iron 76 %, Aluminium 68 %, Lead 58 % - - ................ average values for non allergic persons to certain metals.."

More information here...
http://www.goldenmean.info/geobiology/

The metals specifically boost certain chakras and this specific data is not here on site but is in his latest book (Frencxh). Alumnium and Mercury (52% amalgam) specifically lower the 3rd eye chakra area!!! It could be the link to chemtrails and why they are only in populated areas where the 'crop' is. Barium is quite a rare metal and wasn't tested but I bet it does something similar and is not good... In "minerals for the genetic code" barium is not good.

The PM metals boost the chakra and tend to be the higher chakra's hence crowns etc being made from these metals with crystals inlaid in them.

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I'm surprised too about Silver... maybe the energy is too powerful in orgonite and creates an intense energy some may feel as spikey...

Accasionally on ebay there is scrap gold metal tags from circuit boards etc...
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:40 am    Post subject: Fantastic photos Reply with quote

Thank you Sensei,

Kirlian photography is a real glimpse into the energy world.
I was very impressed by all but especially the bismuth.
I have a big hunk on my shelf, but was told it is too toxic to touch.
Time to put the bismuth to work in some orgonite.

A quick look says bismuth has diamagnetic properties.
Had to look that one up:
Diamagnetism is the property of an object which causes it to create a magnetic field in opposition to an externally applied magnetic field, thus causing a repulsive effect. Specifically, an external magnetic field alters the orbital velocity of electrons around their nuclei, thus changing the magnetic dipole moment. According to Lenz's law, this opposes the external field. Diamagnets are materials with a magnetic permeability less than μ0 (a relative permeability less than 1). Consequently, diamagnetism is a form of magnetism that is only exhibited by a substance in the presence of an externally applied magnetic field. It is generally quite a weak effect in most materials, although superconductors exhibit a strong effect. Diamagnetic materials cause lines of magnetic flux to curve away from the material, and superconductors can exclude them completely (except for a very thin layer at the surface).

After reading this, I may try to make some orgonite with bismuth and a rare earth magnet.
Anyone have any thoughts or impressions?

Peace,
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A board member asked for a bismuth pendant, after seeing the energy field from Kirillian image of a bismuth piece.


Bismuth usually comes as a lab grown metal crystal, they are colorful and intricate.


Crushed for use.


You would not believe the weight of this sample. Bismuth is incredibly dense.



Orange Sapphire , Burmese Ruby, Lemurian seed crystal , Bismuth, Nano orgonite matrix.


Blue Sapphire, Lapis Lazuli, Bismuth, Lemurian seed crystal ,24 K Gold.(here is your reverse flow piece).


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This idea just occurred to me in regards to using silver in orgonite. I was thinking about how scary-looking masks of tribal cultures were used to protect people and ward off evil spirits, and wondered if a quartz crystal could be used in conjunction with silver, programmed to be a "guardian" of one's space, like the masks and such. Silver is used as protection anyway, so I wonder if there is something to this guardian thing.
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 2:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have used silver beads in conjunction with blaclktourmaline beads in my "donut" orgonite pieces, and that works well. However, I mostly use gold plated beads in everything now.
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PostPosted: Mon May 02, 2011 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This looks like the only thread plasterite is mentioned. After a bit of browsing on Icke I came across the plaster peddling thread where they were touting off the scale Bovis readings. I started looking at this Bovis usage and tested out my own pieces, my best pieces hitting up to 18,000. Wasn't sure as to why my stuff would not go above that mark on the scale. Then I came across this............

On the web, you'll find people talking about dowsing 'bovis' readings of several million units.... but this is only a mis-use of the term 'Bovis Units' ; they may have drafted a chart with the full scale labeled as 10,000,000 and are getting a reading of 4,000,000 on that particular chart. That's 40% of full scale... nothing more should be assumed. http://www.stenulson.net/energy/dowsing.htm

So this refutes the high scale readings done by some of the others promoting their "new" ideas. Laughing

When I come across that thread again I will have to reply with a recalculation of their findings LMAO!

I also wonder about the consistency of Bovis numbers between different people testing the same object.



PS, Sensei have you tried a Kirlian of a bare crystal? I am curious as to what kind of energy signature that would display.
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know a lot of you (including dennis) feel silver has a creepy vibe to it..

but i'd STILL like to see a kirlian photo of one... is that possible?

if you don't like what you make you can always send it my way Razz

a hair analysis shows that (aside from aluminum and barium being high, duh) my silver levels are much higher than normal.. almost "toxic" for most people.. my naturopath kept asking if i ever wore cheap silver that lost it's colour/turned green... and that's just not the case.

i've always loved silver (much more than gold)...it's probably because it makes up a fair part of my complexion Razz


either way, i'd still like to see what it looks like in a kirlian photo Very Happy


possible? Very Happy maybe? pwetty pwease
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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nickwastaken - just so you are aware silver has no known toxic dose : )

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PostPosted: Mon May 16, 2011 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You know, silver and turquoise might be interesting, since the Navajo use this combination for jewelry.

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This idea just occurred to me in regards to using silver in orgonite. I was thinking about how scary-looking masks of tribal cultures were used to protect people and ward off evil spirits, and wondered if a quartz crystal could be used in conjunction with silver, programmed to be a "guardian" of one's space, like the masks and such. Silver is used as protection anyway, so I wonder if there is something to this guardian thing.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheNocturnalEgyptian wrote:
Hi Nickwastaken - just so you are aware silver has no known toxic dose : )

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my silver levels are much higher than normal.. almost "toxic" for most people



tell that to my hair analysis Razz it was just off the chart, in the "toxic" level for all the other metals listed on the same chart

i was never too worried about the toxicity of silver, that's why i put toxic in quotations Razz ..according to the chart, it is toxic.. but who follows charts these days, anyways? Razz

p.s. ..would still love to see a pic of a silver piece Razz if you think it feels creepy after casting it you can always send it my way Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have gone through periods in which some mineral or metal felt creepy and then later not so. It all depends on your current vibrational orientation perhaps. I used to make quite a few ormus loaded silver pendants for sale (a secret process.) Silver is a very important metal. Whether or not it mixes with orgonite is a personal question. For some people ormus does not mix well with orgonte. For others it does.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheNocturnalEgyptian wrote:
Hi Nickwastaken - just so you are aware silver has no known toxic dose : )

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my silver levels are much higher than normal.. almost "toxic" for most people



After further reading (I believe emlong linked this, but I may be wrong.. if it was, thanks.. if not.. thanks to whomever Smile)

http://www.warmwell.com/tsepurdey.pdf

I think I can trump that, actually. The "dose" isn't really lethal, it's more of a balance between a ratio of Ag and Cu. Too much silver and not enough copper is potentially lethal... but I guess, then again, the silver alone is not Razz

interesting little study.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

That wasn't really discussing toxicity in the usual sense. It was reporting a chain of events that might lead to TSE's but not by the mechanism of toxicity. I was more interested in the idea that loading tissue with barium crystals made the tissues and neurological system more sensitive to acoustic waves. As we known, acoustic weapons are being deployed more and more for crowd control, so if you wanted to "inoculate" a population with barium crystals to make them more amenable to manipulation with advanced weaponry then raining barium down on them from the skies might be the easiest way to do that.
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PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2011 10:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

on the results from my hair analysis, as well, in the corner where it shows toxic ratios, it lists copper to silver, as well.

too much silver is only harmful when you dont have enough copper.. trust me Wink

and technically too much of anything is toxic, really.. im sure if you took enough silver you could get heavy metal poisoning.. and if not, at least still do damage to the digestive track in the long run.

combined, copper and silver are the ultimate tool to fight bacteria:

http://www.nrcresearchpress.com/doi/abs/10.1139/m93-134

separate, silver is even toxic to plants (more toxic than copper Razz)

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16328613

its also probably important to note the ratios of silver to zinc, and copper to zinc.

too much of anything is bad.. its all about moderation Razz

but ya, typically i guess you could go and say silver isnt toxic.

ps i dont remember if that article came across the point, but when silver levels are too high it ends up replacing things in your bones (like calcium and magnesium) which even copper would be a more valuable replacement... i suffered many broken bones as a kid (i also played a lot of physical sports) but it was never due to low calcium or magnesium intake... took time to figure it out, but the only thing out of the ordinary was 7.65ppm of Ag in my hair Wink (which i would like to note was EVEN higher than aluminium, coming in a close second at 6.99 ppm, followed by barium (.6), lead (.45) mercury (.17) and arsenic (also .17)

bismuth was on the list, too.. did not list Sad

from the analysis: Silver is not recognized as an essential nutrient. Its presence may cause disorders in the biosynthesis of collagen resulting in the production of connective tissues with incomplete matrix components. Increased ascorbate intake partially ameliorates the toxic effects of silver. (just read that now, by the way hehe)
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