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illmaticmd
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 08, 2005 7:16 am    Post subject: what am i seeing? Reply with quote

Whenever I look up at the sky during the day I can see thousands of orgone flashes everywhere. But along with them I see these slow moving circles(look kinda like cells with no nuclei) and are in different linear formations(some straight lines, or X shaped, or L shaped,etc). They are not bright like orgone, more like light grey and they seem to follow my eye movements. Ex. If i look to the right, they will follow my vision to the right and continue to drift in that direction. Some of them I begin to recognize as I have seen them before. Sometimes I focus on them and they disappear (like they're shy or something). does anyone else see this stuff:?:
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Possible eye floaters. Stuff that builds up in the occular fluid of the eye.

-Ryan (not cheezerman!)


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the same thing, and more in my vision.

I have yet to find a definate answer as to what they are.




...sorry i cant help more
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Eye doc told me these are called Eye Floaters, caused by stray particles that sluff off inside the eyeball. ; this was about 12 years ago and he basically said there is nothing he can do to rid them for me. Have read elsewhere more recently that some people say there are supplements to take that can rid these, but I can't confirm these results.

Yes, description you gave is quite similar. I have them in both eyes but the right is dominate, and the thing has been the same shape for 12 years now, it's kinda like a knotted translucent ball of string (or many-segmented microbe) . On slow days (really slow Wink I lay down outside looking up into a clear sky; keeping eye still, can center the thing in my eye and see right through it.

It's generally kinda annoying as it interferes with seeing things clearly, especially now that I'm more often practicing the the unfocused-eyes orgone stare rods & cones thing. Have found that keeping one's eyes fairly still allows it to float towards the bottom and out of the center of view.


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the confirmation ryan
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illmaticmd
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

drew, thanks for the info. i just did a web search and found out all about floaters. The symptoms described in some websites are identical to mine. thanks again!
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 7:40 am    Post subject: Eye Floaters Reply with quote

Yes-I believe I also read that there are ways to make these floaters tone down or go away. Mine get worse with headaches or if I drink too much caffeine. I usually notice it when I'm outside. It gets really bad sometimes after they've been spraying. Pay attention to when you get them and take note of the sky. FWIW Good luck and please post again if you find out info about correcting these floaters. Thanks! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Floaters can be a symptom of insulin resistance, which often is a result of a high carbohydrate diet that dysregulates the metabolism and causes many hormonal imbalances.

I'm not saying that the appearance of floaters means that you have this condition, but it's something to look into, especially since insulin resistance (hyperinsulinemia, sometimes called Metabolic Syndrome) is very common due to the high carb content of most modern diets, even vegetarian diets that are relatively lower in fat and protein. Some people need more protein and good quality fats in the diet.

Floaters can also be associated with mercury poisoning (usually from dental amalgams or vaccinations), and homeopathics can help there. Liver cleansing of one sort or another may be appropriate, but it depends on your individual situation.. in other words, not everyone who has the same symptom needs the same treatment.

If it persists, I'd see a *good* homeopath or naturopath.

-Karen
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 09, 2005 10:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have alot floaters and flashers too. I've done liver cleanses and paid close attention to my diet, mainly because I have other liver-related symptoms. I have found with proper nutritional care, they are fading slowly.

David, you mentioned that they seem to get worse after spraying...
That may be because you're looking at them against a whited-out sky. When it's overcast but still bright is when I see them most clearly. Extremely annoying - and definitely a sign that some cleansing needs to be done, I think.

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-Mike
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:40 am    Post subject: Floaters Reply with quote

Thanks to all for the info on floaters. Have had them for years. Take lutein and bilberry to help my eyes out - can't say for sure if it helps.

I do have lots of amalgum fillings in my mouth too. Sad

I'll pursue the homeopathic and liver cleansing paths as well.

Tony Razz
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the same things you do illmaticmd. Never saw them before getting involved with orgone. You've identified the flashes/sparkles as orgone. Me too. The gray cells I've identified as DOR energy. I only see them when I change my focus as when seeing orgone energy. I don't see them at any other time so I'm sure they are not floaters.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 10, 2005 5:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

moonbeam, that was the dilemma going on in my head a while after reading about floaters, and also seeing pictures of similar images on websites that label them as floaters. i also started seeing them only after becoming aware of orgone. and although the floaters theory seems like a simple and genuine explanation that i could rest on, i still feel a sense of doubt that this is a pathological problem with my eyes. also how is it that you've come to except the "floaters" as DOR?
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 5:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What if labeling what we see as "eye floaters" is the medical mafia's way of covering up for people who see DOR? Knowing what they are capable of, that's not so hard for me to believe.

According to what I read scanning a few sites about eye floaters, they occur on a light, white or bright background, like computers or the sky. I've never seen them around a computer, only outdoors. I've seen them on bright days and on overcast days. I notice them more when chemtrails are being sprayed. Unless I'm daydreaming, I have to try to see them. And I can make them go away by refocusing my eyes for normal viewing.

It's my belief those cell type floaters are biological crud from the chemspew sprayed in our skies. It has a similar nasty vibe as when seeing DOR from towers or hydro lines. They have a gray sludgy sticky energy until gifted. Sometimes I see DOR as smokey gray flames, indoors and outdoors, particularly after gifting.

Those sites also say floaters are "normal" and usually nothing to be concerned about. If you are worried about your eyes, then maybe you ought to get that checked out.

Although, I think if you really believed that, you would be posting on a medical board instead of an orgone board, no offence intended.

Anne
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Although, I think if you really believed that, you would be posting on a medical board instead of an orgone board, no offence intended. "

haha good point
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 23, 2005 11:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I too see the "flying sparklies" as Orgone and also see the eye floaters. Resembling orbs and worms. Because they move and drift with your eye, you can figure out that they are on your eyes unlike Orgone which flies of it's own free will. I can't say what the floaters are, but I assume like some others that it is chemspew crud.

Has anyone ever hidden the sun with the corner of their house and look for flying strands? See alot of them on heavier spray days, some falling close, some at least a mile long and floating in the currents hundreds of feet up. You have to block the sun and look above it, else you won't see them.
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