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How to wrap a Mobius Coil for Succor Punch. Pro Tips !
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 9:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote





Thankyou for al the tips, heres my first succor punch, dose the coil look alright, I have a 30khz zapper to power it with, I plan on getting the 15hz nano zapper from Orgonecrystals to work with soon.
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, that looks fine and functional. As you noticed, it is difficult to wrap a small crystal with a thick wire.

If you use 26 AWG wire, it will be easier to twist and easier to wrap.

The output on a coiled crystal is proportional to the number of turns of the wire.

Spinning the twist a little tighter will make the wrapping easier.

After twisting and coiling the wire it is also a good idea to test it ti see that it has not broken in the insulation where you cannot see.

Nice work.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 2:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

maybe twist the wire tighter before wrapping the crystal?

what size wire did you use?
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 7:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What for smokey did you used for wrapping? The crystal will work better feeling a more refined scalar input(smaller wire). Thanks for sharing.

How does your dog react?

=> Moved the original content to the mobius coil variations and added the pics on the mini sp's series.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sensei- revmccoy- thank you for the replys, I'm not sure what the gauge is on the wire, I snipped it off some old computer speaker cables, this was more of a practice wrap, when the funds come. I'm going to order proper wire, and re wrap it, I've been reading a lot of emlongs posts, and plan to use gravity and heat to let the wire set.

-Dose the crystal have to be piezoelectric in order to make a proper succor punch, or to create scalar waves? I have a foot long clear selenite blade it has trapped water inside. Its one my favorite, and largest crystals.id love to wrap it.
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good question, I have never used it.

It has a crystalline structure, so it may very well work. Wrapped tourmalines work as well.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 3:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this thread inspired me to pick up a spool of 26ga hook up wire yesterday.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 5:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CarolusM09 Smile
It is kind of complicated, but there are some "rules" I follow:
1) twists: The more the merrier. Greater the density of twists (~torsion) greater is power. Simple explanation for this paradigm is that formula for inductivity of solenoid is L=µ*d^2/l (d= length of wire and l= height of solenoid; one can view d/l as density of wraps)
2) supercoiling (see 1)). After right helixing I do left and then right etc. Alternating rule (right, left...) gives low girth per torsion, meaning greater torsion per length. First twists are 45° (1-sc) and 2-sc etc. are done till triangle (feel with fingers) (wires spreads allowing formation of new structure. When wires constrict you have triangle).
(one can define relative torsion as # of right turns - # of left, and absolute torsion as +. Goal (1) would be to maximize absolute torsion, while relative is small. There are some sort of dangerous mobius variation like solenoid from 1-sc. I think that that is because of high relative torsion that creates some field. It isn't advised to put classic mobius on anything except xtal and fasces of pipes; while I can put 2+-sc solenoid on single pipe (though it's stronger if you put xtal with pipe).).

The rules of wire twisting extends to coil wrapping (i.e. if last twists where right I coil mobius left, with more knots (as you call "Three knotted toroļds") (I only got 1 experience with this paradigm and it sounds too perfect)) (though, mistake here doesn't give too much trouble for goal (1) if 2+-sc). I have weird feeling that 2-sc is stronger in passive then 3-sc. It was noted to me by radiestezy compartment in my forum that it is better to wrap circle with 2-sc then have strait 3-sc. Though, what is circle? I took 2-sc and slowly wrapped circle. This is what I discovered (though power decrease goes weaker for more wraps):

One time I was about to made SP from 3-sc. I coiled the most I can. I realized that my coil would be too big and I got 6 knots. So, I continue using 6 knots Razz . It was a chear coincidence that I put right length. I managed to put 3 turns (+ 1. circle) (going a bit late on knot on next turn) and didn't put last knot (out of first Cool). When I was about to cut isolation I realized that I should do the last knot. When I put back the xtal I was amazed by perfection I got. 3 turns, 6 knots per turn (merkaba mobius), looks full, "S"-es where in Lakhovsky point (angle) (near each other)... In total I stared at it for 1h and 10 min. I realized that I should breathe love into SP. It said that I should recognize love in me and others Very Happy . Haven't talked to xtals before of after. Haven't have the heart to activate it for 2 days Laughing

That is why I could add 2 more optional rules. Do 6 knots and try to reach Lakhovsky point. I do wonder about possibility of Lakhovsky mobius. Let's say that classic mobius is solenoid on filled torus. Then Lakhovsky mobius would be Caduceus coil on filled torus. Isn't filled, though.
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 20, 2013 7:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Enjoying this. Coiling feels like grading diamonds Smile

Cadaceus coil, Merkaba coil, reading your blueprints got me an insight.

Why not a FOL coil? Having to figure out how to knot 6*18 turns on a big crystal
with Sensei's pro 26awg wire Cool

Thanks for your inspiration, gonna check them out really soon Smile

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

For future reference, will this wire do?:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/21AWG-6A-104-0-07mm-Silicone-Rubber-Wire-0-4 0mm-Flexible-Stranded-Cable-/331255476909?pt=UK_BOI_Electrical_Compone nts_Supplies_ET&var=&hash=item4d205d72ad
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 5:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unknown as I have never used it.

Plastic insulation VS Silicone insulation. I would have to try the silicone wire to give you an answer.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 28, 2014 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah ok. I didn't even realise there was a difference lol.

When the time comes, I just want to do what is tried, tested and true, so I will stick to plastic.

Thx Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have a crystal I got ages ago which wants to be in a powered device:




Is this wire any good for wrapping it? I know I will have to be careful with it and test it before pouring. I will add shrink tube to protect the wire outside of the device:



Specifications:
Stranded core, single: 7/0.2mm copper
Sheath: 0.3mm PVC
Overall diameter: 1.2mm
Nom. conductor area: 0.22mm2
Max. working voltage: 1000V rms
Max. current: 1.4A
Colours: Red
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Is this wire any good for wrapping it? I know I will have to be careful with it and test it before pouring. I will add shrink tube to protect the wire outside of the device:

Nice rock !

That wire should be fine. Wise decision to use shrink tube on the stress point where the wire exits the device.

They Will break there eventually if there is no added reinforcement where it will be repeatedly bent,twisted or pulled.

Make your powered devices as if they will be used for many years,

because they usually are.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 29, 2014 2:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Sensei, Smile

Yes it is a crystal that just called to me at the time. I have been waiting for the right time to wrap it.

I'm glad that wire is ok, I looked for hrs lol
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