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PostPosted: Sun Sep 04, 2011 3:58 pm    Post subject: Piezoelectrci Gems Reply with quote

http://www.classicgems.net/info_Piezoelectricity.htm

Above is a link to a page on piezoelectric gems. These stones could probably be used as we use quartz in orgonite to bring the energy sensitivity up a lot, and their own native qualities would also come into play. Note that scolecite which I was using to trap ultrafine gold colloids is also piezoelectric, so not only is it grabbing the gold particles and storing them inside its porous structure, but it is also behaving piezoelectrically when subject to pressure by the shrinking resin. Natrolite which is the sodium heavy zeolite counterpart to scolecite has a more fizzy energy than the serenity of the calcium heavy scolecite. I have used them both in orgonite. I also did not know that the super powerful beryl rhodizite was piezoelectric. That is just one more reason to use it in orognite when you want something off the charts energy wise.
It is surprising how few natural stones are piezoelectric. There are probably more than listed here, but still there does not appear to be very many with that property, and some of them are not well know stones though most of them can probably be found in Melody's encyclopedia of stone and crystal energies.

http://www.amazon.com/LOVE-EARTH-Encyclopedia---Fantastic-Testament/dp  /0962819069/ref=sr_1_2?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1315151810&sr=1-2
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 06, 2011 8:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been wanting to try Wulfenite in orgonite for awhile. I had come across a good deal on quantity awhile back but never ended up getting it. Neptunite would be interesting as well!

I've made a few pieces with just tourmaline before and they had an interesting signature though not as effective as regular quartz in my opinion.
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Berlinite is one that has caught my attention to use in orgonite.

I'd also love to get a hold of some lead zirconate titanate (a.k.a., PZT), as it's supposed to be very very strongly piezoelectric. Anyone try this stuff?
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2011 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I have seen that as a synthetic on Ebay.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 6:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanx a lot for that link emlong!

I was reading the bottom of that page about quartz producing 12500 volts, when force is applied in a correct way.
could something like this be happening when we put quartz in orgonite? (just a thought)
-shrinking resin puts force on crystal
-crystal creates voltage/charge
-voltage/charge cant go anywhere, because resin is insulating the quartz.
-crystal stays charged...... doing its magic.....

(I have not tried!) lead zirconate titanate :

http://www.reade.com/products/41-titanate-compounds-powder/656-pzt-pow der-lead-zirconate-titanate-lead-zirconium-titanate-cas-12626-81-2-lea d-zirconate-titanate-powder-pzt-lead-titanate-zirconate-plumbum-zircon ate-titanate
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I keep thinking perhaps incorrectly that a crystal under steady pressure is just in a more responsive state to passing vibration. To generate voltage an abrupt strike is needed, so mostly the crystal is sitting there without charge. However, a crystal will hold a static charge from say rubbing it with certain materials, and that charge will hang on until discharged. That is the basis of Marcel Vogel's theory and work, but suppose the real reason squeezed quartz is so transformative of DOR (in partnership with orgonite) is that it is in a higher and more sensitive state under pressure? It is possible this has nothing to do with piezoelectricity.

On the other hand, let's say as the resin is curing and shrinking a surface charge is gathering on the surface of the quartz. If the crystal is surrounded by a matrix of metal particles in resin that means that touching the surface of the orgonite with a hand discharges the charge. I know the charge is continuous through the orgonite because I have seen a spark enter one end of a piece of orgonite and discharge through the other end. The charge hopscotches the metal particles through the orgonite. I watched this happen with a "Violet Ray" wand being touched to the orgonite.
Does this mean that if we want to contain the charge on the crystal we should first cast it in resin alone which is a dieletric and then cast that again in a ball of metal/resin? That would theoretically prevent the charge accumulating on the crystal from discharging to the environment around it, human hands, whatever. Seems like I remember this sort of casting being talked about already somewhere back there in the annals though I don't recall if this technique was pertaining to charge containment.
I guess too that we wouldn't have to cast the crystal separately. It would probably suffice to wrap it in an insulator like Saran wrap as long as it was made thick enough that the metals flakes would not cut through the Saran and touch the crystal.
Ok, now we have something new to try.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I recently tried using BaTiO3 crystals of cheap kitchen lighters in orgonite together with brazilian blue kyanite, arkanzas dt quartz and brazilian phenacite. The time for the mold was carefuly calculated with astrological software. The pendulum went crazy!

More powerful piezocrystals may be found in ultrasonic sonars' transducers. Dreaming of using some in a Power Wand.


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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are you getting those barium piezos somewhere, or are they being harvested from the lighters?
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2012 5:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Small half-inch long cylinders are 'harvested'. As for bigger ones just occasionally came across at some radio shack about ten years ago.

BTW pretty good piezos should be in car alarms, not sure though.

And probably the best are in u-sonic cleaners.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 2:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Has anyone heard of Novaculite? it's a type of flint, it's highly Piezoelectric but very expensive, some say it could be Obsidan but I have read up on it, it is mainly a micro crystaline quartz.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2012 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Novaculite is often made into sharpening stones for edged metal tools. The "Arkansas stone" is novaculite mined down in the Ouachitas in central Arkansas. I did not know that it was piezoelectric.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 11:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natural Mined Rough Pink Tourmaline.

will this have piezoelectric qualities? the reason I ask is it doesn't have the crystal like form of other examples ive seen

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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Piezoelectric and pyroelectric effects depend on gem clarity to have the most energy, at least that is what I have always been told. It is best to use higher clarity versions of any of these gems. Gem therapy advocates for clarity in general too.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 28, 2013 2:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do you think black tourmaline as it lacks clarity will be the less piezoelectric out of the tourmaline family?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 13, 2013 7:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Black tourmaline has well know absorptive effects on its own independent of its piezo and pyro properties, so even if it is not particularly piezoelectric in its average rough form most commonly seen then it still lends a lot of useful energy to the orgonite. A lot of the opaqueness of black tourmaline comes from its high iron content. I am not sure that it is all that fractured internally.
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