feedback on sugar orgonite

Marmin74 · Joined: 08 Jul 2009 Posts: 229

what you might try is use resin, natural (pine tree) , for shaving of body hair, at least this is somewhat more stable. It's appealing to me although it's not as strong as artificial resins.

Ruth · Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 173 Location: Oregon

Thanks, Lena. It sounded too good to be true. An affordable resin substitute is a favorite day dream for some of us Very Happy

Ruth

Lena · Posted: Tue Jun 01, 2010 10:03 pm Post subject:

Hi Ruth,

Yes, there have been many alternatives tried like sugar, plaster and pine tar and unfortunately none of them can do what the resin does, though the makers usually claim them to be better... you can't cheap out on making these devices...

Lena
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Sugarnite :) · Joined: 01 Jun 2010 Posts: 3

Hi!!

Thank you all so much for your advice and the chat of the other day Smile

I am really happy to have found this place and all of you.

Yesterday I finally did my first try with polymer resin orgonite. It was great and amazing!! You know, I thought it would be too much of a mess, too complicated... or that I would asphyxiate myself or something! LOL!! Well, not at all! It isn't even difficult to guess the right amount of stabilizer. I could develop one little HHG for my purse, a big one for my room, a big brick which now lies around my plants, and a bowl-shaped piece which I gave my father as a present - my first gift Smile

Well it didn't even stick to the moulds. I can't believe it is so easy!!

As you said, polymer is far better, above all as regards the big pieces. It is not expensive when one considers the amount of pieces that come out, and their size. I keep the sugar orgonite jars for sentiment though lol Very Happy

Thank you so much for the ideas about hiding the orgonite!! The ones about putting a sticker with the .com at the back and about painting it to make it look like a rock are the ones I loved best. With the second method I can place the pieces safely in public parks, etc. And of course I have a loooong list already of friends for whom to make a piece Smile

I hope that with time I gather a group and we arrange gifting all around my homeplace. And after that... the rest of the world! Lol Very Happy

I am really grateful and happy Smile

A big hug!! See you around!

PS: Today I knew that the Holy Hand Grenades name came from the Monty Pythons!! xD!! I LOVE it!! Mr. Green

Sensei · Posted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 5:04 pm Post subject:

Congratulations ! The making of orgonite tends to release the creative spirit in all of us.

Don't keep us in suspense, how about some pictures of your new friends ?

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Ma-Ra · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:02 am Post subject: About Sugar... again

Dennis and Lena,

I just bumped into this thread and I could ignore it and not answer to it as I don't like to be "against" you (and as I'm late on schedule on everythings), but my integrity tells me to write down what I'm thinking of it.

1. First, I'd like to asking you if you have ever made sugar/orgonite yourselves - cooked to 320° farenheit and all that? If yes, Dennis or someone else, could you tell us the difference, in %, between half liter (for instance) of resine/orgonite and the same amount of sugar/orgonite? This will be very useful, indeed. Efficient up to 80% ? 70% ? Less? More?

2. I'm not for Orgonite/sugar at all prices, but to say that (Lena) "...Yes, there have been many alternatives tried like sugar, plaster and pine tar and unfortunately none of them can do what the resin does, though the makers usually claim them to be better..." doesn't feel right to me.
To my knowledge, nobody making orgonite/sugar claimed or is claiming it to be better than resine - nor do I.
Sugar has always been presented as an ALTERNATIVE and no polluting way to make Orgonite.
It has been presented as a way for countries where people can't buy resine (and where there is no resine anyway) to make Orgonite.

3. It is not true that sugar/ogonite doesn't work at all, and one should not say so. Otherwise, it means that all the dedicated people who have been gifting with sugar and have getting very good results with it - are liars. And they are not. We had blue skies too after gifting with sugar/orgonite. Ask the gifters from Quebec. I had good results too with sugar/orgonite - though I'm doing mainly resine now.

4. What is the purpose of bringing down something that can be so useful under certain circumstances? Why to bringing down a type of Orgonite that a mother with children can make in her kitchen - where she will NEVER pour resine? What about all these people who lives in crowdy cities with close neighborhood and who can't pour resine because of the smell - because they could be throwned out of their appartement for that?
(The workshop I under-rent is down a locative building, and because of this, I use mainly epoxy, because polyester smells too strong. Even epoxy smells a bit when curing and people notice it).

I don't understand this closing.
I don't understand why it's so difficult to understand this.
I don't understand why it's so difficult to understand, too, that some people who feel very concerned about chemical products prefere to make sugar/orgonite, even if it works a little less than resine, because it make them feel more "in tune" with there convictions.
I don't understand that one still can't understand that there are countries where resine is just not affordable, but where sugar and crystals are.
I just don't understand!

I'm not writing this because I want to start a debate: it's 3:30 am in Switzerland and I should be sleeping (I've lots of things to achieve before the end of the month and I really need sleeping these days). So no, I don't feel to arguing with anyone here or elsewhere - but my consciousness and my heart told me to write this post, and I have choosen since long to follow them as much as I can, no matter the consequences.

I'm wishing you/us all an as light-as-possible Summer,

Mara des bois
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Sensei · Posted: Thu Jun 24, 2010 2:45 am Post subject:

Ma_Ra when I have made sugar orgonite in the past (as well as samples sent) is had significantly less potency than resin. Plaster was worthless.
My concern is that WarriorMatrix is a forum where beginners get information on orgonite construction. For the effort involved in making sugar orgonite and it's disadvantages(heating, animals eating it, needing to be in glass jars , moisture issues, etc.) one could as easily make full potency, permanent resin orgonite.
If it made good orgonite I would use it. There are some natural linseed oil resins developed for the surfing industry that do hold some promise.

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Ruth · Joined: 29 Mar 2010 Posts: 173 Location: Oregon

Ma-Ra, I suspect that the effectiveness of sugar organite comes from the love in the hearts of the makers more than the effectiveness of the techniques. If that love is combined with a technique that is more effective, I suspect the effect will be synergistic. The effectiveness of love plus technique will be multiplied, not just added. Just my opinion.

We care about everyone who is working to heal the earth, and want to see your time and energy and money used in a way that gets the best results. I can't afford to throw away my time, energy or resources, and for you that are recieving the orgone I make, if you have suggestions that will make my work more effective, I WANT TO HEAR THEM.

I'm still working on mastering the resin/ hardener ratio. If you have any good hints, I'd be glad to hear them.

Love, Ruth

Ma-Ra · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:09 am Post subject: To Dennis and Ruth

I have written a text (toke me one and half hour to make it readable) and I lost everything when submitting it (session expired). Crying or Very sad

Sorry, I'm just too disgusted to write it again.
I'm going to sleep instead...
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Sensei · Posted: Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:25 am Post subject:

Hang in there Ma-Ra, we will wait patiently for your post.

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aemit · Joined: 15 May 2010 Posts: 119 Location: Tokyo

And it is even better to write long posts in Word and paste them here at once Smile

Regarding making orgonite inside, I would never do that, even with good ventilation I would worry about the fumes making me high or something... Always make orgonite outside and I don't even have a garden, so I just do it on the open corridor outside my apartment. Funny, the neighbor has never asked me so far what I was doing...

monsoon gecko · Joined: 06 Dec 2009 Posts: 105 Location: Australia,Darwin

Gift them.

Although , probably benefitting already ! ha

aemit · Joined: 15 May 2010 Posts: 119 Location: Tokyo

Yes I was thinking about giving them some orgonite, like if they ask about what I always do out there Smile

but it is the next apartment so there is already a ton of orgonite around and in the place. I don't think it would make any difference in the energy situation if I gave them extra orgonite...

DoMiracles · Joined: 27 Apr 2010 Posts: 2

Piezoelectric Sensor For Evidence

Can some of the experts, here in this forum, please
use piezoelectric sensors installed inside their devices
for the purpose of measuring the actual pressure that
is being exhibited on the ingredients?

Or explain why that would not work?

Or if there is another way to measure this pressure?

Thank you.

In hope of Peace & Synergy & Holo Pono (success) !