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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 4:58 pm    Post subject: Orgonite, is it a powerful magnet? Or a local collector Reply with quote

I am wondering, if you have an orgonite pendant on, is it powerfully, almost magnetically attracting good and bad orgone from around you and then converting it to good orgone? Or is it only converting the orgone that it happens to encounter as you walk around?

This also made me wonder, if it is powerfully attracting orgone towards it, since most pendants (including my own based on visually inspecting images of others) seem to have a clockwise coil when viewed from the rear, so it would be drawing in bad and good orgone from behind you and pumping positive orgone out the front right? Well if it is indeed powerfully attracting good and BAD orgone from behind you and through you to reach the pendant, would the presence of the bad orgone have any negative impact on the person wearing the pendant? Especially given from my limited coil understyanding that it would seem the positive energy would be shooting outwards from the front, ie, away from the wearer?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 6:50 pm    Post subject: Just my opinion Reply with quote

This is just my opinion, I think the coil discussion is unimportant. I do not put coils in my pendants. I also think you are overthinking it. I feel that wearing a pendant protects my heart chakra and I feel that shungite adds to this effect.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 7:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I am just trying to understand the mechanics of it. If I know how things flow and why then I can design things with certain goals in mind. But if I have no clue of which way things go, whether energy is attracted or merely collected on contact etc then I am no different than the person who designed my cone HHG by just throwing things in there and making it look nice. I do not see energy although I am feeling a certain presence of a feeling inside my chest that I have not experienced before. Still, I do not see the flow of anything, where the energy comes from, how it travels and exits based on having no coils then again with a standard coil and again with an SBB coil. I just do not know and I feel ill-equipped to make intelligent decisions on designing devices, If that makes sense?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:07 pm    Post subject: hmmmmmm Reply with quote

I can't sense the energy either, however, I have seen its' effects in countless situations. Sychronicites, Runs of good luck, meeting interesting people. For example, I met a group of healers due to my abiltity to pour orgonite. Also through an amazing series of synchronicities, one of the pieces I gifted in a public place, ended up being discussed on Coast to Coast radio and I was able to hear it on Youtube, even though it was only on Youtube for a day due to copyright issues. Figure the odds on that one. It is actually more interesting than this short version, there is an old post about it on this site. Just pour brother, just pour, don't worry about the fucking coils. It reminds me of a radionics meeting I went to where the electrical geeks were all hung up on the wiring of the devices then the cat giving the meeting starting dicussing intentions' effect on the devices and all the geeks were lost. My friend and I just laughed and said why go to all the trouble of wiring up these devices when you can just grab a tree and work your intentions.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 8:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That is one way of doing things, especially for tactical orgonite. I just really want as much understanding of the very basic elementary mechanics of orgone. For example:

How fast does orgone move? Is it like a fog gradually rolling in? Is it like a busy road with cars wizzing by, the cars being orgone energy?

Is orgone attracted to, pulled towards, orgonite? Or is it that the orgonite has an effect on orgone that happens to come across the orgonite and there's no pull towards it?

Does orgone travel around a single piece of metal on a coil or is it following inside the gap between the outer layer of the coil and the next ring, kind of like flowing down the channel between the copper wires?

What is the difference in effect on the orgone between a standard coil vs an SBB coil?

I am an IT guy you see, I am very systems orientated. I also script (program) in a scripting language too, so with orgonite, if I can gain enough understandings of the basic mechanics of what energy sensitive people can describe, then I can take that information and make use of it the same way I do functions in a computer scripting language and achieve specific goals. Make a piece that radiates in all directions, make a piece that shoots out in a single direction, make a piece that takes energy from here specifically and rolls it around, etc.

Without very elementary knowledge like this, it's too haphazard when making orgonite devices, you can hope it does what you want, you can pretty much guarantee DOR will become POR but how much? Where will it come from and where will it go? What if a pendant is shooting the clean orgone outwards and the wearer never gets exposure to it etc.
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 9:00 pm    Post subject: Considering... Reply with quote

Does a fish sense water when he is living in it all the time? According to Reich you are surrounded by orgone and also have it in your living cells. How are you going to detect its' concentrations, movements, etc. If Orgone could be detected with devices, it would be an easy affair. However, I don't think this has ever been done. Maybe you need to break out of your IT mindset. Haven't you ever looked at the many manifestions of the beauty in nature without analyzing it?
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PostPosted: Mon May 01, 2017 10:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know it's hard to get an objective detection which is why I am talking about energy sensitive people who can share what they know, a higher resolution of information than the average Joe like us. There are people who feel and sense nothing, as I thought I was going to be, there are people who can have some kind of feeling from it's presence, which I seem to be (not sure what I am feeling though (high throughput of orgone being drawn through me faster? A dramatic lack of DOR? I have no idea) and then people who can literally see the energy because they are sensitive enough and not limited by early programming and beliefs.

If those people who can see the energy can share information, it can help the rest of us make better decisions on how to construct devices. Instead of making tactical orgonite, we can put coils in and understand the flow of the energy whether it goes in a direction or not, whether it can be extremely concentrated or if it's like a funnel fanning out wider but from a constrained starting location. Etc.

At this point I am using 100 mesh titanium powder because I have yet to receive my order of aluminium and various other shavings of metal. I have been reading that the higher the density the stronger the effect but the range of effect dramatically goes down. So my best guess, since I have not heard from people about this after asking, is I dropped the metal concentration from my already reasearched 40% to 20%. My rationalization being since people say the point is to bounce the orgone around to raise it's vibrational state, too much powdered metal which has way way more surface area than "large" shavings, might be choking the throughput and since there's more individual surfaces for the energy to be bounced off, perhaps the reason shavings have more range is because more orgone is going in the same location from hitting the same large area of a shaving as opposed to orgone hitting individual grains of powdered metal so the energy is going all over the place and it's less likely orgone will be following the same path. See?

So I dropped the powdered metal quantity to 20% with my idea being since the surface area is so much greater, if I drop the metal quantity perhaps it will reduce the choke effect and be more effective at creating DOR to POR while the lower quantity of metal allows the orgone to flow faster/better through it.

I am unsure if my rational is sound but based on that information I have gathered from this forum about metal densigy in the orgonite matrix, that is the conclusion I have come to. I am certainly having a deep inner feeling coming from my heart area where the pendant is.

I have tried putting them in the next room and having none of them near me and I feel it as an ambient feeling at lower intensity without the "reactor in my chest pumping it out" part of the feeling. I have also put them at the bottom of the garden and I no longer feel the feeling at all. So I do not know what range people would expect from a 40% mixture, maybe I will make a 40% and try it I don't know. I just like to get as much data as possible before I go into experimentation because I can build off the existing knowledge rather than trying to reinvent the wheel that so many others already know.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 1:20 pm    Post subject: hmmmmm Reply with quote

I think most pourers on this site use at least 50% metal content. I put as much metal in my pieces as possible.
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PostPosted: Tue May 02, 2017 4:44 pm    Post subject: Re: hmmmmm Reply with quote

diogenes wrote:
I think most pourers on this site use at least 50% metal content. I put as much metal in my pieces as possible.


And when you are using shavings that is probably perfect. But when you do powders in this quantity that's when you run into the comments about the range being really low but the effect powerful over a very short range. Which is why I say about the difference in surface area probably needing way way less metal in order to get as close to non-powdered efficacy while using powders. It's a theory but a good one I think. Might not fully have the same range as non-powdered but I believe it would increase the range.
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