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jungledan
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 5:42 am    Post subject: why is trancendental meditation bad? Reply with quote

I have tried to find the reason for this because on many sites it says it is tied with the illuminati, but other than that what happens while you are doing it? Does it have to do with putting you in a suggestive state?

I kind of wanted to do it for a while because it was tied with aryuvedic teachings but now i don't know about it. Thanks

Also any info on Tattwa cards would be appreciated as well.

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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

does anyone know about a Dr. Jonn Mumford?
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 4:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have heard TM is an Illuminati approved meditation, I presume because it isn't going to do much apart from making you feel better, relaxed, remove stress etc. And it's mantra meditation, read below. I prefer Vipassana, as far as mediation goes. Dr Mumford--I have one of his books on Tantra, which is OK, but he touts anal sex for tantra, which is an Illuminati approved sex method http://www.whale.to/b/sodomy_q.html, but I am not sure anal sex is bad way to raise kundalini, just never heard of it being the tantra way.

"Meditation is not circling thought, nor is it the random repeat of a mantra, because this boils down to internal dialogue. True meditation consists of complete inner silence - a silence in which there is only awareness. This awareness is of course the dreamer, and when that state is entered the social being is quite literally en rapport with his dreamer.
This in effect means that during meditation the practitioner enters into his full awareness, and in that state he is capable of understanding the purpose of his dreamer at that particular moment in time. It should therefore be clear that true meditation cannot take place before the practitioner has first mastered the art of silencing the internal dialogue. However, to stop the internal dialogue, like everything else, requires personal power.......most practitioners get caught up in either the form of the meditation, or else in the mantra, and consequently never reach the desired goal. For example, in Raja Yoga the man normally becomes obsessed with the act of visualization without realising that the visualization is merely an aid to stop the internal dialogue. Likewise, the man who uses a mantra meditation becomes obsessed with keeping the mantra going and does not realise that the mantra should at some point cease as inner silence takes over. In both of these examples it is the man's obsession which is his downfall and which keeps the assemblage point firmly fixed in normal awareness.
The important point here is that when the warrior has acquired sufficient intent he will be able to silence the internal dialogue, which will in turn enable him to break the fixation of his awareness and to make his assemblage point fluid. Once this has been accomplished the warrior not only enters the awareness of his dreamer, but he also becomes at-one with his dreamer, which is of course his real self. It is this state of being which is termed the Third Attention, a level of awareness in which the warrior can consciously manipulate his dreamer's expression of the one universal force, namely the will of the Eagle, or intent. Hence it is stated that there comes a time in the life of the warrior when the command of the warrior becomes the command of the Eagle."---Theun Mares (Return of the Warriors p185)
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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2005 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks for the info john, I appreciate it. I really like the last two sentences of that quote. I really do want more out of meditation than just relaxation although that is great too.

Thanks again,
Dan
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