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cassiopeia
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 8:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have just had one person ask me about that, I think. They were concerned because they had read about Reich using aluminium in his ORACs and causing rodent's hair to fall off. Also, they had read some stuff by James DeMeo bashing orgonite in general, so they were curious about that.

Otherwise, I haven't heard much about this lately.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Orgonite is not an ORAC which was notorious for collecting DOR in certain environments. Hair was falling off of critters no matter what metals were being used in the ORAC if the device was situated in a Dor laden environment. This is probably the real problem among the lay public - they don't understand the difference between the old Reichian ORAC's and modern orgonite.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cassiopeia wrote:
I have just had one person ask me about that, I think. They were concerned because they had read about Reich using aluminium in his ORACs and causing rodent's hair to fall off. Also, they had read some stuff by James DeMeo bashing orgonite in general, so they were curious about that.

Otherwise, I haven't heard much about this lately.

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Reich was making accumulators. We make transformers. The crystal makes the difference.

IMO DeMeo has an ego the size of New Jersey. Reading his site almost turned me off of orgonite for good. Fortunately I ran across a mention from a source I consider quite reliable, so I took another look and gave it a try. I wasn't disappointed.

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 3:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

DeMeo does almost as much damage as the Crofts.
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i really really love aluminum (aluminium). no problems, no falling hair... well my hair is going the way of the dodo, but i would say it's age related, and not al related Smile. truth is, it's a fascinating metal.
i wish some open minded physicist would come up with a conjecture as to why it feels so good. there must be a scientifically sound explanation. but then again, it's just me, i am trying to promote more (and sounder) research on every single forum i am on, and since my own intellectual abilities are somewhat limited, anybody willing is most welcome Smile
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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is not the metal that affects people within oracs Shocked

Every metal reflects as the inorganic part, and alu has always been a reflecting mirror?

So it is the intensity which makes people go nuts Smile

Thats why i would thank for the nano pendant, its a safe standard!

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PostPosted: Fri May 23, 2014 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few years ago Jeff Rense (of Rense.com) got on a rant going on his site about people leaving their chembusters on pointed to the sky all the time because he thought they would be radically changing the weather in unpredictable ways. He did not understand the difference between a chembuster and the old Reichian cloudbuster which would indeed play hell with the weather if just allowed to idly sit around pointing any which way. When Reich was done using his cloudbusters he would dismantle them so as to neutralize them for the time being. Finally, someone explained to Rense the difference between the two devices and he piped down. I can see that the problem is that people are reading about the early days of orgone while not taking note of more recent developments. It must be confusing.
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PostPosted: Sat May 31, 2014 5:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an article explaining the use of Aluminium in orgonite products:

http://educate-yourself.org/lte/orgonegeneratorsvsaccumulators14mar13. shtml

And this is especially interesting article.

"The Confusion about Aluminium in Orgonite"


Some people on the web have been stating that aluminum, and sometimes copper too, cannot be used in orgonite because Wilhelm Reich supposedly said that these metals are harmful to the body. They don't know what they are talking about.

First, Reich worked with different devices, not orgonite. Reich made orgone accumulators from different materials, to capture the orgone and concentrate it inside a box, in which his test subjects would absorb the high concentration of orgone for healing purposes. Wilhelm Reich's orgone energy accumulators were in the form of squarish boxes which consisted of alternate layers of organic and metallic materials, such as cotton or cellulose and aluminum or iron. Reich's continuing experiments in this field disclosed that organic materials attract and collect orgone energy from the atmosphere. The metallic material acts to both repel and contain the orgone, and thus the combination of both materials produces an ideal collector or accumulator of orgone energy. Accumulator experiments with humans showed that the pain of burns was eliminated or radically diminished in a few minutes, and the healing took place quickly, without scar; skin conditions would either clear up or be made worse, depending on the type; cancer cases did not develop anemia, and the patient's blood improved. In all cases, the results seemed to be due to a building up of energy in the organism. Where the energy was already high, patients could not tolerate the accumulator; depressed patients were helped in rebuilding their energy.

Experimenting with different metals, he found that an ORAC lined with aluminum caused a loss of fur when used on mice, while a lining of iron gave the best results. This does not mean that aluminum was bad or harmful. Aluminum is a much lighter element than iron, and copper, and has s much stronger radiance of life energy. This is well known by people who work energetically with metals. The lighter the metal, the stronger the radiance. When you work with lighter metals, like aluminum, one has to shorter one's exposure. Too much orgone does the damage, not the choice of metal.
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