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Rich Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 215 Location: South UK
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Posted: Wed May 11, 2005 7:56 am Post subject: |
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Laozu, so the water only requires a day on the CB to charge to its optimal state?
And I was going to get a pyramid with the top snipped as per your instrctions made up; http://www.warriormatrix.com/viewtopic.php?t=227 but I guess it will be prudent to wait and see if the water can double team this way.
Thanks Dude.
Peace
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Jay Daga Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 12:39 am Post subject: Re |
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Really interesting topic.
If you can experiment and check how efficient different methods of using water are, try this:
let some sea-salt crystals dissolve in the water you are going to use.
I don?t know with detail what it is that happens to water then,, or how, but it can after that be affected by ones intent more powerfully and I believe it could also be used with this kind of energizing on a vortex-thing.. most certainly.
It is old type of medicine to almost any sort of physical or psychic ailment in this country, surely elsewhere too, that for example one crystal of salt dissolved in a glass of water, can be energized with prayer so that it for example heals head-ache when the water is drank... Prayer has most to do with energy and mind is quite a instrument to affect into energy all in all. And healing prayer is pattern of high spiritual state of mind ,, and same is with anything concerning orgone and vortex created by CB isn?t it.
Well, experiment if you don?t already know. Try it and tell what you?ll find out if you will. I would be really interested what you might already know about using salt-crystals in anything... they are said to "cleanse the air" and if put for example to a top of a bookshelf where one rarely touches at all, less dust sets there or no dust at all, and that?s because of salt..? strange or what,, but so it is said...
I?m so young that I haven?t experimented it yet in my home but actually could but I think I should first clean the old dust away,, well maybe tomorrow heh..
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concerning water and use of salt with it;
This sort of possibility makes sense, as salt has crystal form, that when crystal-salt (i use this term because fine-ground salt won?t work, it needs the crystal form) is dissolved in water, the crystalline-structure is also dissolved-> generated in to whole amount of water.. and it don?t take much of salt, just a little. then you can use water at least a bit like you could use crystal,,, to direct will or however you would say you can use crystal... in orgone generator; make the healthy orgone field wider than without crystal.
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Laozu Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Palouse Hills
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:35 am Post subject: |
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Never tried salt crystals Jay, though it may be interesting.
One advantage about charging water with a CB is that it seems to do good work regardless of intent. Just leave the water in the CB and go to bed and forget about it till the next day.
Rich, it does seem that one day on the CB is plenty.
I put another crystal in the charged water last night, and today I took it out and made a TB (#1) with it. For comparison I also made a TB (#2) with an uncharged crystal adding no water, and with a TB (#3) with an uncharged crystal but with charged water.
TB #1 was strongest, just ahead of #3, and considerably ahead of #2.
If the TB (#1) retains its charge, I am going to switch from charging my crystals in a pyramid to charging them in CB-water. |
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Jay Daga Member
Joined: 31 Jan 2005 Posts: 41 Location: Helsinki, Finland
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Posted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:06 pm Post subject: re |
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Water can "store information" - and like attracts like, so one can do with it anything one knows what one can do... its not important in the intent with orgone to analyze it any bit more than just the fact that orgone energizes for example water,, and on a CB there is a vortex or orgone so it energizes water really powerfully.
In healing with water that has crystalline form of salt dissolved in it, it is the same, it takes no any ceremonies and really great concentration and setting of intent to energize glass of water.. and it seems it is more "easy", more powerful and maybe the water keeps its energized form better when there is this salts crystalline form in it.
If the CB is short one like I have, can you say on what level the vortex point in which the change from DOR to OR happens is? or might it be depending on the height from the ground more than the height of the CB itself,, i don?t know, i just thought..
Also, if one would put some really powerful TBs ,, say six around the CB - for example two meters away from the CB,, and would then carry there big containers of water, salted water . . . and by prayer/intent/asking "please earth energy vortex, widen now to width that is made possible by the extra TBs here around and make it as powerful as is good and let its power to be as efficient as is allowed to energize this all water so we can use it for the best purposes available", Would you think that would then do something ,, energize the big amount of water around like a simple CB would energize a bottle of distilled water? It?s possible.. something there would happen I?m sure of it.
If you can test and see or however you do, experience the effectiveness of different orgone-generators,, meaning you are so sensetive to it or know what to sense in it, it would be really great if you could test something like that. but of course, do as you will, no hurry.
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Don Croft Guest
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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Kelly's been doing active research on energized water and its relation to orgonite for two years, often producing dramatic results. I feel a need to relate some of these things, since the only public record of much of this has since been erased but for now I want to report that when we had the confab last weekend here of some of the other heavy hitters Kelly brought some samples for everyone to assess in a blind study: two towerbusters--one ordinary one and one in which a little of that energized water was added to the ordinary catalyzed resin.
Even I could tell that the TB which has the additive puts out a lot more energy than the other one does and the psychics among us were all ilmpressed with the difference and were more eloquent in expressing it.
The wonderful part of this is that anyone who has a cloudbuster can make extremely fine and potent energized water that will keep its charge and can be used for other purposes, including boosting one's orgonite devices.
Most great discoveries like this one are introduced without fanfare so most folks who encounter the evidence are not impressed, just like most folks who witness genuine miracles are not impressed because there's no Hollywood soundtrack in the background. Not surprisingly, most crap is introduced with a lot of fanfare, so it fools the less discerning for awhile and they're going to empty their pockets again and again for crap because nature hates a vacuum . Maybe that's what consumers' purgatory is
Since one has to be empowered to embrace even the simplest truth, the really good stuff, like this, follows a more tortuous path toward general acceptance when it can finally be considered 'common sense.'
We intend to do a LOT of good work with this simple but powerful development from now on and will be promoting it.
Kelly later showed us an intesting new development in re: energizing crystals but I'll leave that to him to relate.
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Don Croft Guest
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Posted: Sun May 15, 2005 3:35 pm Post subject: |
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By the way, if you can't afford a hundred bucks for your own CB but can afford to spend hours a day posting on this board, why not go spend that time digging some ditches or something and earn a hundred bucks, instead, then make a CB and try this yourself!
God's not broke, so I'm sure He can help you get up the scratch, otherwise
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Rich Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 215 Location: South UK
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Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Another question on this topic, my situation is I live in a studio flat, in a city, so nowhere here to put a CB, anyway, I am going to make one next time i visit my mothers for her garden (assuming she OKs this), but thinking this over, has the charged water/xtals been tested on CBs made? as I was thinking I could use the CB to charge some water, but then thought surely the CB would be far more powerful if it was made with charged water/xtals to begin which is abit of a catch22.
I am going to ask John if I can be a pain and get some charged from his, but this seemed a logical question, and perhaps people could charge water for others and charge a little postage/hassle fee so others can start at the highest potency possible.
Just thought I would throw the questin out there.
Peace
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Rich Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 215 Location: South UK
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Posted: Wed May 18, 2005 12:30 am Post subject: |
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Apologies for the above rubbish, as I have read up yesterday about making a CB, seemingly you don't put the crystals into the resin anyhow so the charge would fade and make this pointless (according to the educate-yourself construction instructions), and then I read Laozu's post on EW saying that using the water itself was difficult, so sorry for making myself look like the silly newbie I am!
Guess I should just stick to gifting, reports
Peace
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Laozu Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Palouse Hills
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Posted: Thu May 19, 2005 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Actually it was a good question Rich. I put some metal and resin about my crystals in the bottoms of the pipes of the CBs, just high enough to cover the crystals. That way, water won't get around the crystals in the winter time to freeze and perhaps crack them.
I believe the crystals charged in the water would be helpful in making a CB. I haven't done it that way yet, but I have made a CB with the charged water, and it was better than the previous CB I made.
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Laozu Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Palouse Hills
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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Ryan (McGinty) was over yesterday and we looked at two samples of water which had been charged on a CB in February. Sample #1 had not been disturbed, but sample #2 had had some crystals placed in it and charged several weeks ago.
Sample #1 was seemingly still as strong as it had been three months ago, but we both agreed that #2 was much weaker.
So it is probably best to use the CB-water only once when charging crystals. However nothing prevents one from charging a large jar of water on a CB, and then repeatedly filling a small jar to charge crystals as needed. |
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Rich Member
Joined: 17 Mar 2005 Posts: 215 Location: South UK
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Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2005 9:10 pm Post subject: |
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This was the impretion I got from your writings, and have been pouring from my container into another jug to charge xtals.
I have now made two CBs, the first with just some charged water and uncharged xtals (with cesco coils), the second with both charged water from the charged water/cesco coiled CB I made the weekend before, and, charged CB water crystals (and uncharged coils).
Unfortunately I am not energy sensitive, but got very strong confirmations from the first.
Have you found that coils charge well this way also? As Cesco says his coils will charge up in the pyramid charger.
Thanks for all your efforts.
Peace
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McGinty Member
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Panhandle of ID
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Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2005 3:06 am Post subject: |
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While at Laozu's I looked at two TBs. One normal and one charged crystal inside. The charged crystal inside definitely had a larger field of energy. The energy field was agout 20" in diameter. While the standard was only about 9" in diameter.
Then he showed me the waters. The water that charged the crystal lost quite a bit of the energy. Had a 7" diameter of energy. But the original charged water had a strong field of about 20" in diameter. One possible thought why the charged water used on the crystal lost so much energy is that it transfered the energy to the crystal.
What impressed me is that the water was over three months old and had a field of energy larger than a TB and most HHG's. Usually water looses it charge after a month and has to be shakend to activate it.
My CB is up and tonight I'll try to charge water the same way.
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SovereignSpirit Member
Joined: 28 Jan 2005 Posts: 8 Location: Las Vegas
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Posted: Sat Jun 11, 2005 10:56 pm Post subject: |
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I finally made TB?s with water charged with my CB a la Kelly. The ones with charged water are more powerful than the regular TB?s. And I only put about 10 - 15 drops of charged water per TB. I had no problems to get them out of the mold.
I really like the idea as I don?t have to spend extra money except on distilled water which is not much.
I have charged both spring and distilled water. The distilled water feels more stronger. _________________ Lilly Sovereign Spirit
Bad boys, bad boys?Whatcha gonna do, when we come for you?!! |
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McGinty Member
Joined: 01 Feb 2005 Posts: 145 Location: Panhandle of ID
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Posted: Sat Jun 18, 2005 1:31 am Post subject: |
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Here are some photos to show how simple it is to charge water.
I drank some of the water and it was a better pick me up than coffee.
Ry |
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Laozu Member
Joined: 25 Jan 2005 Posts: 214 Location: Palouse Hills
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Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2005 4:15 am Post subject: |
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At the suggestion of several people I built a CB out of half-inch pipe, to see if it would charge water. This CB is quite plain: standard Don Croft construction with the exception of pipe size, and that I only used single terminated quartz crystals in the pipes. Here are some pics:
in bucket;
out of bucket;
with pipes.
This last photo shows the CB planted in the ground. It is rather light and this way the wind won't blow it over. Before I planted it, and before I took the plastic "bucket" off, I put some water on to charge. I left it on about 6 hours and found that it was charged after this time.
In the third picture I have a larger bottle with distilled water and a number of crystals in the water, to see how it works charging both at the same time. I will report on this tomorrow, barring emergencies. |
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